[HPFGU-Movie] Re: OOP movie SPOILER

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In a message dated 4/18/2007 1:46:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
juli17 at aol.com writes:



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Julie:
Hi,  Jam! (We're old friends from another Yahoo list :-)

Alla and others are  obliquely referring to a discussion on the
main HPFGU list regarding  changed patronuses (patronii?). Since
JKR often uses foreshadowing in the  books, many of us have assumed
Tonks's briefly mentioned changed patronus  in HBP foreshadows
a changed patronus in DH, one which will have more  impact on the
plot. Two theories have been that Harry might have a new  patronus
reflecting his status as Dumbledore's Man, or that Snape  might
have a new patronus reflecting his status as Dumbledore's  Man
(should he turn out to have "killed" Dumbledore on  Dumbledore's
orders, meaning he's DDM--Dumbledore'orders, meaning he's DDM--Dumb
evil--or OFH--out for himself). The latter has been a pet  theory
of mine and others, since it might give a DDM!Snape a way  to
communicate information to the Order. (And JKR did decline to
name  Snape's patronus in an interview, saying it would "give 
away too  much.")

Anyway, it did come as a surprise to many of us that Ginny's  
patronus is a phoenix, because a phoenix patronus at this 
moment (as  of HBP) would seem to reflect Dumbledore or Fawkes
as a protector, and it  seems that Ginny as a Weasley might have
some other symbol of protection.  Though the theory advanced that
Ginny's experience in COS could have  influenced her to see Fawkes
as a protector is a viable one, I suppose.  

As for Ginny being a Mary Sue character, I know some on the  main
list again see her emergence as a strong character and as  Harry's
love interest as coming somewhat out of the blue. Though I  do
think there were clues to her talents as a witch and a  Quidditch
player in earlier books for some those clues were apparently
a  little too subtle. Thus the feeling that she's Mary  Sueish.

Julie





Hi, Julie!
 
OK. Since I haven't had time to follow the main list too  closely, I can see 
that I missed a lot of references that would have  helped.
 
Thanks for the assistance. I guess I don't have much more to  add, 
then--except, I hope all the speculation doesn't lead to disappointment  because of 
inflated expectations.
 
I'd rather like seeing what the movie people could do with  creating a 
phoenix patronus, too. I'm a visual person, and the image sounds  like it could be 
lovely. The symbolism doesn't bother me at all, if it's a  reference to Fawkes 
saving Harry in CoS, and foreshadows Harry's triumph over  Voldemort!
 
jamelia
 
 



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