Favorite Fictional/Historical Couples
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Sat Feb 17 02:03:45 UTC 2001
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at y..., "Ebony Elizabeth Thomas" <ebonyink at h...>
wrote:
> I wrote:
>
> > > 3) Simon de Montfort and Eleanor Plantagenet (daughter of Prince
> >John
> > > from the Robin Hood legends, historical figures)
>
> And Dai responded:
>
> >Quick question; I thought King John's daughter Eleanor married
> >Llewellyn ab Iowerth (when she was about 12 naturally). They were
> >happily married for many years until she had a fling with William
de
> >Braose (who Llewellyn promtly hanged before forgiving Eleanor). Who
> >was Simon de Montfort? Am I thinking of the right Eleanor? I think
> >the Eleanor who married Llewellyn was a random illegitimate
offshoot
> >of one of John's random affairs (before he married Isabelle), is
the
> >Eleanor to whom you refer a legitimate daughter from the union with
> >Isabelle?
>
> You're mixing up Eleanors, I think... easily done! There was
almost an
> Eleanor in every generation of that section of the Plantagenet
family tree,
> I think. :)
>
>
>
> I fell in love with the Eleanor Plantagenet/Simon de Montfort story
from
> reading historical fiction as a teen. I've read two novels about
it, and
> subsequently did some research. All three Eleanors above were
legit.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm an American.
>
> All the best,
>
> Ebs (who *loves* the name Eleanor)
>
>
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Another Eleanor fan!!! If your'e interested, there is a series of
books written about Eleanor by Sharon Kay Penman. Warning: most of
them run around 700-800 pages. She's historically accurate (even to
descriptions of clothing) & one h**l of a good writer. There is also
another Eleanor book, called "A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver"
that's also quite good. I love Eleanor and Henry--at least at first,
theirs was a real love match. They had a son named Geoffrey, as
well. Btw, I recommend the movie "The Lion in Winter" too.
Peace & Plenty,
Parker
(who'll read *anything* about British history)
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