Rights & Citizens (Carolina, Kathryn, bluesqueak)

[Steve]

Carolina said-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/17314

Kathryn said-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/17316

Bluesqueak said-
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/17329


bboy_mn:

Excellent posts, all of you. I can only conclude that we are much more
in sync with each other's thoughts and feelings, than earlier post
might indicate.

RE: USA vs UK-

There is one big difference between the US and UK as related to this
recent series of posts. In it's history, UK has know more than it's
share of conflict and hard times. The US, on the otherhand, has had
things way too good for it's own good.

UK knows from experience that it must cling to what is good with every
fiber of it's being and every last drop of it's blood. It's amazing
how hard times will make you value and appreciate the good times so
much more. 

The US, on the other hand, has had very little internal conflict in it
history; revolutionary war, civil war, and the great depression of the
1930's. There is one small problem with that. The citizens sometimes
become more interested in preserving the 'good' they perceive in their
daily lives; good job, good house, good schools, etc, and they become
willing to sacrifice the greater good in an effort to preserve the
security of their personal lives. These are the people who will so
willingly trade freedom, for what they would eventually discover is a
false sense of security.

This same patter repeats itself in all countries where an incidious
evil creeps slowly in, erroding freedom with the popular support of
the people, all for a sense of security that, much to their amazement,
only deteriorates. 

Of course, like all wise but evil governments, they will quickly blame
this deterioration on an absurdly false but common enemy; the jews,
the Bolsheviks, the Communists, the Molsems, the decadent rich, the
lazy good for nothing poor, wellfair mothers, blacks, Asians, the good
old USA ...the list goes on and on. The point is no evil goverment
worth it's salt can function unless they come up with a good common
enemy to distract the citizens and help them forget that the evil
government is the real enemy.

We have a free press in the US, but that free press, in the interest
of preserving their own 'seucrity', fall into a pattern of doing
nothing but repeating the press releases that the government hands
out. When challenged on this issue, they say that they can't afford to
make waves because if the get the administration mad at them, they
will be banned and therefore lose access. 

Sadly, what they don't realize is that if they challenge the issue,
they could hardly be banned, because the press has a Constitutional
right to scrutinize the government. But it's so much easier to not
issue the challange and to stay safe and secure.

UK has 2,000 years of history, that's plenty of time for many many
challenges to the security of the people to occur. The US has 200
years of history, and we have not had to face those challenges yet. 

The biggest problem is, if the US citizens don't maintain constant
vigilance against the enemy within, and cling with every fiber of
their being and every drop of their blood to the freedoms at the
foundation of our country, I could very easily see this country
becoming corrupted. And when the largest standing army and larest
nuclear force in the world becomes corrupted, it's hardly what the
world could call an 'internal' problem.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE.

I defend the Bill of Rights to my death, even against my own
government, because the minute we let the government start chipping
away at our rights, we take the first step on the road to perdition.

Wonderful talking to you all and hearing your opinions.

Peace out.

Steve/bboy_mn