[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Main List Problems - new problem identified

[Saitaina]

Cindy wrote:

<I glanced at the names of the members of the list administration
team, and, unless things have changed dramatically, I can guess that
there are only around *15* people actively doing the day-to-day work
of moderating a list of over 10,000 people>

Not to talk out of school but that numbers actually...wrong.  Everyone
who is currently active (ie: Not away, suffering computer
malfunctions, not in the loony bin) is pitching in and helping out.
Just had to mention that.

<Thus, the system is very
labor-intensive, but the list is protected from all spam and posts
that violate the rules. >

Nope you got it right there.  Just wanted to add that if you guy saw
some of these posts, you would bow down to the pendings system.  You
think some of what we have is bad...you ain't seen nothing.

<Seriously, though.  I do appreciate that the list administrators are
paying attention to this discussion and are making good points.  I
assume that each of you is speaking in his/her personal capacity.  >

I certainly hope we are as if anyone's taking my comments in an elfly
capacity I'm in deep trouble. Nope, I'm just speaking for me, a list
member who just happens to be an elf and can see both sides of the
argument.

<So I hope it's OK to ask this directly:  do you have a plan to deal
with the problems that folks have identified in this discussion, or
are you working on one?  Can you tell us what you have decided and
what you are considering?  And what can we do to help?>

We are listening, we are hearing and we are working.  We just don't
have anything to give you all yet.  I know it's the same old song and
dance routine but this came up at the EXACT moment we were discussing
this amongst ourselves, trying to figure out what to do.  ALL of the
suggestions here are being taken notice of, and seriously debated.
All I can ask, personally, as myself, is you just give us a little
time to figure out, basically, where we go from here.

One of the main problems on my end, is that before OoP came out, we
didn't have to face the fact that we were a VERY large group.  But
with the release of OoP I myself and probably other admins have come
to the realization, we're not the little group we used to be.  We're
HUGE and we can't exactly use the old methods anymore.  Changes have
to be made.  The problem is figuring where's the best place for the
changes, what's the best course of action for the list.  And this
takes time.  A solution is being worked on, but we can't do it
over-night which I'm sure you all understand.

I know I've said it before and the words are sounding false, but I'm
right there with you in your frustration.  I just deleted everything
out of my HPfGU main list folder un read because I didn't have the
time nor energy to read it.  And that's bad both personally and as an
elf because I'm supposed to read those.  So yes, the frustration, the
annoyment, the "Wasn't this just discussed?  I don't want to read
about this again." is here with me too.  All I can ask is a bit of
time while we figure this mess out.

Saitaina
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