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[Haggridd]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Grey Wolf" <greywolf1 at j...> 
wrote:
> > > Lorrie Says 

> >  I'm only suggesting that people
> > CALM DOWN a little about breaking the rules. 
> 
> You're certainly not going to achive that by shouting at us. I can 
> assure you that my hearing is quite good, no need to raise the 
voice. 
> See, I'm concerned. I'm no mod, but I can smell a flame war as 
well as 
> the next one, and this topic is starting to burn. Please calm 
down, 
> this list is for calmed discussion of HP off-topic.
> 
> And I don't agree - "calming down about breaking the rules" is, at 
this 
> point, a bad move. The rule breakers are already taking too many 
> liberties. You don't want to allow them even more.
> 
(snip)

 
> > > Lorrie says:
> > You're really getting too worked up over something that *will* 
work
> > out right.
> 
> It's nice to have optimistic people. Unfortunately, I'm one of 
nature's 
> pessimistics, and sincerely, from my PoV things won't get better, 
> particularly if left unchecked. Rule breaking is self-maintaining. 
The 
> more rules are broken, the easier it becomes. IMO, things *won't* 
work 
> out right just because. Measures need be taken, and the mods are 
> swamped enough as it is. I think that giving them a hand is not 
that 
> bad. I know several of them. They are just human, and have so many 
> things in their plate right now that any contribution helps.
> 

[snip]
 
> > Lorrie again: All I'm going to say one more time, is that in the 
end
> > this will straighten itself out. People will learn the RULES, 
they
> > will learn to SNIP, they will learn that ONE LINE replies are 
bad!,
> > AND I'd be willing to bet money that in awhile, alot of these 
people
> > WON'T be here.


> 
> Grey Wolf, who wishes to calm things down, but is very aware that 
he is 
> probably not the best to do so.

I snipped as much of this excellent post as I could while still 
preserving one thread of argument by grey wolf, with with I agree.
If no oversight is performed, and posters are left to post as they 
please in disregard of the rules, you will not see things settling 
down, but a kind of Gresham's Law "Bad money drives good money out 
of circulation") for posts.  As Grey Wolf mentioned, veterans will 
simply not post, and as the percentage of irresponsible posts rises, 
ever more of the better-behaved psters will move elsewhere.

Haggridd