Spoiler: Snape and the Lessons

[M.Clifford]

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> > I felt that Harry was remorseful about invading Snape's private 
> > space, and for what he saw in Snape's thoughts.   I think Harry 
> > tried to tell Snape that he didn't find his father's actions 
> > amusing, and that Snape kicked Harry out of his office before 
> Harry 
> > could explain.  And I do think that since Snape is the adult, not 
> > Harry, Snape shouldn't have stopped the Occlumency lessons.  
> > Espcially since Dumbledore specifically asked him to resume 
them.  
> > Would Sirius have died if Snape had continued these lessons?
> 
> Ummm, actually by the way the lessons are going, I am not sure.  I 
> was actually surprised how little progress Harry's been making, 
> considering that he was throwing Imperius curse off quite easily 
and 
> Snape did said that the principle is similar.  They've had 3-4 
> months and there has been absolutely zero progress.  Harry simply 
> wasn't taking the lessons seriously (or Snape is a pretty rotten 
> teacher, which is probable.).
> 
> The Penseive scene actually reminds me of the new Charlie Kaufman 
> screenplay, "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind", (coming to 
> a theatre near you this fall) where the protaganist takes his lover 
> into the deepest, the worst of his childhood memory in order to 
> evade the "memory police".  Memories that he absolutely refuses to 
> reveal to others, or only reveals in a modified version.  One of 
the 
> memories was a junior high bullying very similar to the one in OoTP.
> 
> To get back to the point (if ever there was one), those memories 
> Harry saw are deep wounds that have never healed.  Aren't we asking 
> too much of Snape to just forget all that and resume the lessons?
> 
> And before we begin to tread along Harry's line of thinking, do 
> remember that Sirius's death is a combination of several factors.  
> Yes, the lessons was one but to say Sirius wouldn't have died if it 
> had continued was an over-statement.

I agree obviously Snape was unable to overcome Harry seeing his dirty 
undies. mmm mmmm (stop that snickering Mon) However, the interesting 
part about that is that Snape has learned a little about the true 
Harry in the process and may be less able to tar him with the brush 
befitting his 15 yr old father.
Secondly my personal opinion of why Harry did not practise the 
lessons is that he wanted the dreams to continue. He was feeling 
Voldemorts curiosity and excitement about the mystery behind the door 
as well as his own. Harry has many times risked the most important 
things to him for a small taste of sweet satisfaction and was tempted 
yet again to ignore the warning. At the end of course he finally 
realised what he was risking. It was a valuable lesson for Harry, and 
I think he will definately give Occlumency a second go now that 
Voldemort has shown his willingness to jump inside Harry at will.
ooooooh feeling quite ill.
Valky