[HPFGU-OTChatter] slightly less hurried now

Iggy McSnurd coyoteschild at peoplepc.com
Mon Nov 3 05:38:18 UTC 2003


From: Catlady

> having caught up with OT but still not started main list.
>
> Iggy McSnurd wrote in
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/19222 :
>
> << If *I* was the one who had to chose... I think I'd start my own
> house... *grin*
>
> Iggy McSnurd...
> Head of House Latrans
> (House Colors: Silver and Red, House Animal: Coyote
> House Members: Humorous, Wise, Outgoing, and lovers of Irony.)
> (Latrans is the latin species name for Coyote... btw) >>
>
> You left out 'fast, efficient killer'.

Iggy here:

Hey... It's only for survival... (And after all, isn't it better to be fast
and efficient if you need to do a deed like that, rather than slow and
inefficient?  *grin*)

>Btw, doesn't "latrans" mean "thief"?
>

According to the Notre Dame  Latin to English translator, when you input
"latrans: you get:

latrator : a barker (such as a dog)
latratus : barking


Some other words that share a root segment in Latin with Latrans are:

latrator : a barker (such as a dog).
latratus : barking.
latro : bandit.
latro : (-are) to bark, bay/ rant/ rumble, roar.
latro : (-onis) hunter.
latro : (-onis) hired servant/ mercenary soldier.
latro : robber, bandit, brigand.


So, if you go by "latr" as a root (which, if I would recall correctly in
Latin, you wouldn't) then it shares a common segment with bandits, hunters
and thieves.

However, as Canis lupus is the genus and species names for wolves in
general, with lupus being directly translated as wolf, then it is logical to
assume  that latrans would stem from the latrator, with a meaning that would
be "barking dog."  The name Coyote itself stems from the Aztec word, Coyotl,
which literally translates as "barking dog."  thus supporting my earlier
comment that the origin of "latrans" as a designation stems from the root of
"latrator" and not from "latro" or "latronis."

The word "latrans" itself has no direct Latin translation, which is the
language used for biological taxonomy.

As for Coyotes being thieves, again, it's for survival... (Unless you're
talking about the Totem Spirit, Coyote... then it's for fun.  *grin*)  But
the thief aspect is more by reputation, rather than by name.

As an interesting little side note, Wiley E. Coyote from the Warner Brothers
cartoons was based directly on the Native American Totem of Coyote.  The
highly intelligent trickster who is often too clever for his own good and
frequently caught in his own tricks.

Those of us who have Coyote as their Spirit Guide often live interesting
lives, as we frequently learn more from our mistakes than from someone
saying "I wouldn't do that if I were you."  On the good side, unlike most
people out there, we learn quickly from those mistakes and rarely make the
same ones twice.  *grin*  So long as you can look at yourself and laugh at
the situations you get into, Coyote will usually help you think of a way to
get back out.  You might not always get back out with your pride fully
intact, but you get out...  Fortunately, we're also a lot more likely to use
our wits and ability to fast talk than our fists and ability to fight.

By an interesting coincidence, many people see the "children of Coyote" as
being more than a little nuts because of how we see the world and live our
lives...  This is interesting when you consider that "latrator" means "a
barker", and calling someone "barking" (IIRC) is British slang for saying
someone is insane...


I hope this helps explain things.  *grin*

Iggy McSnurd
(aka:  Coyote's Child)







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