[HPFGU-OTChatter] That's It For Me, I Guess

Iggy McSnurd coyoteschild at peoplepc.com
Fri Nov 14 03:14:06 UTC 2003


Iggy here:

You know, I've been looking at this letter, and a few things bother me.

First off, it appears to be addressed to Cindy from Ali... but it was posted
to this list by Cindy herself.  Was this something that was originally sent
to her directly?  The headers and other aspects seem to indicate so.  (I
have also talked a few times with Ali when she has had to reject a post or
two of mine from the main list, and she doesn't seem the kind of person who
would send something like this into the public list.)

I would also ask that, if it *was* sent to Cindy directly, did she have
permission to post it to the list directly?  Yes, this does seem to be a
little nit-picky, but it *is* understood to be at least common courtesy to
ask permission to forward *any* direct e-mail to a public forum, and also to
indicate this in the letter.  I don't see this anywhere.  I also do not see
anything in the letter to indicate that she was forwarding this letter...
not even the ">" marks that come with anything that's forwarded... much less
a statement at the beginning of the letter that says that Cindy forwarded
it.  It appears to be simply copied and pasted into a new letter.

I am not trying to tear apart Cindy here... she does bring up some points
that may need to be addressed about how things are run if they are to go
smoothly.  Lord knows a number of the List Elves have heard a few gripes
from me about things.  Perhaps they would be willing to set aside some
chat-room time as public forums for these problems once every other night
for a few hours, and work on the most urgent problems.

On the other hand, this tactic taken here by Cindy is, IMHO, "not proper
cricket" (if this American is using the British term correctly...) and shows
that she does not seem to be as completely innocent in this matter as she
would have us believe.  To me, stating that the List Elves and Admin need to
conduct themselves with diplomacy and honor, then sending in an email that
was sent directly to her in the manner she did doesn't seem all that
honorable to me.


As my father used to tell me, and I always believe, "Both sides have their
story, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle."


I would just recommend that people keep this in mind before jumping to
conclusions or passing judgment on this without seeing all the facts first.


Iggy McSnurd


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy C." <cindysphynx at comcast.net>
To: <HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] That's It For Me, I Guess


> Dear Cindy,
>
> Following the recent discussions on FAQ, and your ongoing dialogue
> with MEG, we have regrettably decided that FAQ needs to move forward
> without you.
>
> It has become increasingly obvious that we have gone past the point of
> "irreconcilable differences" with you. Your recent post to OTC, which
> you know to be in violation of list policy, just shows that this
> relationship has gone past the point of repair.
>
> We would like to provide you with the opportunity to leave
> voluntarily. However, if you fail to do so within the next five hours, we
> will unsub you from the FAQ list. Furthermore, if you violate
> longstanding list policy and air disagreements with list
> administration again on OTC, you will be banned from HPFGU.
>
> We are deeply saddened by this decision, and remain indebted to you
> for the work you have performed for this group. We truly wish you well
> in the future.
>
> Yours,
>
> Ali
> For the List Admin team
>
>
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