Combining Brit Royalty and Wizards...?
pengolodh_sc
pengolodh_sc at yahoo.no
Fri Oct 31 10:48:13 UTC 2003
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter, "o_caipora" wrote:
> "Steve" wrote:
> > Perhap, restate one more time; are the reigning monarch and
> > spouse automatically King AND Queen, or does the title only
> > reside with the one who is reigning at the time?
> >
> > If Hermione married Prince William (they are about the same
> > age) and Prince William became King, would that automatically
> > make Hermione Queen, or would she only hold the title Queen
> > if William died and Hermione took over.
>
> The kingship descends through blood. Mary married King (George?
> Edward?). Had Elizabeth. King died. Elizabeth became Queen; Mary
> became "Queen Mother". She's the one who kicked the bucket a
> year or so ago.
Not Mary - the last Queen named Mary died in 1953, and was the
consort of King George V, who died in 1936. The son of King George V
was Edward, who became Edward VIII. Edward VIII, however, had a love-
interest considered at the time unsuitable for a Sovereign, the
American twice divorced Mrs Wallis Simpson, whom he had met and wooed
already in 1930, when she was still married to her second husband.
He eventually realised that he had to choose between the Crown and
Mrs Simpson, and executed an Instrument of Abdication December 10th
1936; it took legal power December 11th, when Edward gave Royal
Assent to His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act, by which
Edward VIII and any children he might have were excluded from
succession to the throne. In 1937, Edward was created Duke of Windsor
and married Wallis Simpson.
After Edward VIII, his next younger brother, Prince Albert, the Duke
of York, reluctantly (he was a very shy person) ascended the throne,
taking the name George VI. He remained Albert to his friends and
family - King Haakon VII of Norway was a good friend of King George
VI, and would always begin his letters to him "Dear Bertie..."
Prince Albert had in 1923 married a Scots Lady of noble heritage, the
4th daughter of Lord Glamis, who would later become the 14th Earl of
Strathmore and Kinghorne: Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon. The Bowes-Lyons
reside at Glamis Castle, which I am given to understand was Macbeth's
home. A fact perhaps not know to many is that when she was 14, upon
the outbreak of the First World War, Glamis Castle was converted to a
hospital for wounded soldiers, and she took on nursing-duties for the
duration. King George VI and Queen Elizabeth hsi consort had two
children, Princess Elizabeth, born 21 April 1926, and Princess
Margaret, born on 21 August 1930.
The full style and titles of the Queen Mother were read by Garter
Principal King of Arms (the senior herald of the English (not
British) College of Arms - in Scotland the senior herald is the Lord
Lyon King of Arms) during the funeral service on 9 April 2002:
"Thus it hath pleased Almighty God to take out of this transitory
life unto His Divine Mercy the late Most High, Most Mighty and Most
Excellent Princess Elizabeth, Queen Dowager and Queen Mother, Lady of
the Most Noble Order of the Garter, Lady of the Most Ancient and Most
Noble Order of the Thistle, Lady of the Imperial Order of the Crown
of India, Grand Master and Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian
Order upon whom had been conferred the Royal Victorian Chain, Dame
Grand Cross of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Dame
Grand Cross of the Most Venerable Order of the Hospital of St John,
Relict of His Majesty King George the Sixth and Mother of Her Most
Excellent Majesty Elizabeth The Second by the Grace of God of the
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of her other
Realms and Territories Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of
the Faith, Sovereign of the Most Noble Order of the Garter, whom may
God preserve and bless with long life, health and honour and all
worldly happiness."
[snip]
>
> Phillip is "Prince" rather than "King" because that's the
> custom; he's a consort, not a monarch. There's a title,
> Princess Royal, for a sibling of the monarch, which the
> monarch can bestow or not as she pleases. Liz hasn't given
> it to her sister.
Instead she has given it to her daughter, Princess Anne - it is
traditionally conferred upon the eldest daughter of the ruling
Sovereign by the Sovereign, and there may only be one Princess Royal
at any one time. Queen Elizabeth's sister, HRH Princess Margaret,
died in February 2002; she was not made Princess Royal as Princess
Mary, daughter of King George V and Queen Mary, was Princess Royal at
the time of Queen Elizabeth's accession. The curent Princess Royal
is the seventh holder of the title:
Mary (eldest daughter of Charles I and Henrietta Maria of France)
1631-60; styled Princess Royal c.1642.
Anne (eldest daughter of George II and Caroline of Brandenburg-
Anspach) 1709-59; styled Princess Royal 1727.
Charlotte (eldest daughter of George III and Charlotte of Mecklenburg-
Strelitz) 1766-1828; styled Princess Royal 1766.
Victoria (eldest daughter of Queen Victoria and Prince Albert) 1840-
1901; styled Princess Royal 1840.
Louise (eldest daughter of Edward VII and Queen Alexandra) 1867-1931;
declared Princess Royal 1905.
Mary (only daughter of George V and Queen Mary) 1897-1965; declared
Princess Royal 1932.
Anne (only daughter of The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh) born
1950; declared Princess Royal 1987.
In general, looking around the British monarchy's official webpage,
will provide very much information on legalities, traditions, history
of the monarchy, etc.:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/
Best regards
Christian Stubø
One of the resident royalists
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