[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Smallville and Veronica Mars. WAS: Sprint, Papa John's, Smallville, and Lesbie refs.

[Laura Ingalls Huntley]

Dina:
> Still haven't seen the recording yet but plan to tonight.  Dunno if
> it's because they're fans of Tom Welling** but some seem to think he
> did a good job in directing. {shrugs}

I think most of the episode was fine in terms of directing choices (or, 
at least, I didn't *notice* the directing choices, which is a very good 
thing), it's just that the Lexana scenes seemed awkward both visually 
and in tone, and ED was a little out-of-control, IMO.

Laura (me):
>> Dina, I'm curious to know if you've ever given Veronica Mars a try --

Dina:
> I keep missing the show.  I've read the description and it does sound
> like a show I could jive with considering my past fancies:
> <SNIP>

Well, the second season's only got something like four episodes left; 
so, at this point, I'd suggest you just get ahold of a copy of the 
season one DVDs and watch them over the summer (unless you happen to 
have a Nielsen box, that is ^_~), so you'll be able to enjoy the S1 
mystery without being spoiled for it.  Seriously, you should give it a 
try -- it'll pretty much blow your mind.  In Joss Whedon's words: Best. 
Show. Ever.

Dina:
> For me, it's seeing something and it figuratively 'clicking' for me.
> I've said this before but Smallville clinched itself when I saw
> Michael Rosenbaum exhausted, on the verge of tears and madness in the
> episode appropriately named, Shattered.  Whereas, in the years before,
> I did catch snippets of Smallville but didn't get into the series.

The first snippet of Smallville I ever caught was of Lex speechifying 
to Clark in the barn after the shenanigans in "Talisman."  I was just 
like, "Who is this bald dude, and why does everyone make such a fuss 
over him?"  Little did I know.

Dina:
> Oz
> was the only exception: I saw a couple fan vids and knew I wanted to
> see more of this series and learn how to vid.
>
> Songvids make for an interesting 'pimping' method. :-)  I've missed
> flying out and going on a vacation/convention, and even though the
> economic future is uncertain, I'm planning on heading out to Chicago
> in August for a vidding convention, so I may end up hooked on another
> fandom. {g}

Well, in the interest of pimping, here's a fan-made "trailer" for S1 of 
VM that I've always thought was very well-done in terms of editing.  
^_~  Enjoy.
http://users.livejournal.com/naty_/13993.html

Dina:
> HoYay? {g}  Want to share details?

Weevil (leader of the biker gang) and Logan (poor little rich boy and 
"obligatory psychotic jackass") are in detention and scheming about how 
to get back at the teacher who put them there:

Weevil: "I've got a plan."  *pauses*
Logan: "Tick tick. Losing interest."
Weevil: "Well, if I thought you had the cojones to pull it off, I'd 
tell you, but . . ."
Logan: "*Never* underestimate the size of my cojones." *winks*

Logan's actor, Jason Dohring, is much like Michael Rosenbaum in that he 
has this intense chemistry with pretty much everyone and everything 
around him, so it makes for lots of yummy subtext.  Plus, he skips!

>> Laura (who thought *Chloe*, of all people, had the best chemistry with
>> Lex in the last ep, even if he was being a jackass.  Honestly, where
>> does he get off on insulting someone else's dating record?
>> Boyfriend-less as 18 is a lot better off than twice divorced from
>> gold-digging homicidal maniacs at 25, IMO.)

Dina:
> LOL!  Though, it is rather interesting because Allison Mack/Chloe is
> very pretty, and while I do want to bitch slap the character of Chloe
> sometimes--damn girl, she needs to not get up in everyone's sh!t--I
> wouldn't mind her.  Yes, yes, I know she's still infatuated with Clark
> but... hm, wishful thinking on my part that Chloe is a lesbian.
> {chuckle}

I actually watched most of the Chlex confrontation thinking that Lex 
was just ragging on Chloe for being, in theory, unattractive to men, 
but his last line, <paraphrase> I think I realize now why you've never 
had a boyfriend</paraphrase> made me wonder if he was actually accusing 
her of being secretly in love with Lana.  Which would rock.  I *adore* 
the idea of Lana leaving Clark/Lex for another woman.  Clark would just 
be in *complete* shock ("Lesbian?!  What's a *lesbian*?!"), and Lex 
would be . . . well, probably in his bunk. ^_~

Hell, if I were Lana, I'd have been completely turned off of men by the 
end of S1 -- they always seem to go crazy and try to kill her, poor 
girl.  Although, to be fair, sometimes the chicks do too (alla Tina).

I'm actually watching "Cool" right now -- where Lex is trying to 
convince Clark to put the moves on Lana.  Oh, how far we've come, 
Smallville.

Laura