Formatting (Was: Why Rowling should not have outed DD)

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 5 23:42:20 UTC 2007


Tonks wrote:
<snip>
> Yes, there is a time to stand up and fight, I am not talking about
those times. I am talking about people’s thoughts and beliefs.  If 
you do want to change thoughts and beliefs, or as the politicians say
“win the hearts and minds” of people, you don’t do it by beating
 the hell out of them first. You don’t do it with a “I am right
and  if you don’t agree with me your wrong” attitude. You find the
mutual ground. You look for the things that unite you. We all assume
that our view is the right one.  This is a win-lose game mentality. 
No one wins that game either. 

Carol responds:
I agree with your point completely, but I'm quoting it for a different
reason. The post is hard to read because Yahoo has mangled it.

The only way I know to prevent Yahoo from treating apostrophes and
asterisks as if they were some sort of indecipherable code (’ or
whatever) is to post from the list. I vaguely remember, though, a
suggestion posted to this list for avoiding this kind of garbling in
messages composed in some other program and then e-mailed to the list.

I'd appreciate it if anyone who knows how to prevent this problem with
e-mailed posts would explain how to do so here. 

Meanwhile, I just want to agree with Tonks that tolerance doesn't mean
not judging other by their skin color or other inborn characteristics.
It means granting others the right to express their opinions,
especially when we disagree with those opinions. And it also means not
preaching at people who disagree with us or labeling them as bigots
(or classing them with criminals, as one poster has done). We're not
going to change anyone's mind by treating that person's ideas or
beliefs as inferior to our own. In fact, it's unlikely that anyone
will change anyone else's mind in this particular thread because it
relates to deeply held values on all sides, and values are often
impervious to logic. We all have the right to be wrong, and right and
wrong on moral issues is seldom as clearcut as right and wrong in a
math problem.

Carol, not calling anyone right or wrong, just asking for tolerance
for all points of view, especially those we'd rather not read





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