The Beauforts Re: reverse dictionary (was: "Herb - Now Aluminum")

[Geoff Bannister]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol responds:
> > > 
> > > Are you thinking of George, Duke of Clarence, brother of Edward IV
> and Richard III? (Richard was Duke of Gloucester when George was
> executed.) 
> > 
> > PotioncatL
> > Yeah, that's the one! I guess the Beauforts came later--from the
> line  of Duke of Lancaster. <snip> 
> > 
> > Potioncat, who will tie this to HP by adding that Lancaster's name
> was also Gaunt.
> 
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> I did think of John of Gaunt when I first read the chapter title
> "House of Gaunt," and given the depiction of the Gaunt family, I got
> the idea that JKR is no Lancastrian! (Which is good; neither am I. I
> wear my roses white, meaning, I'm a Yorkist.)
> 
> Anyway, the Beauforts came earlier, not later. I don't want to go into
> too much detail (even though this is the OT list!) because I'm not
> sure that many people will be interested, but the Beauforts were
> "extinct in the male line" at the time of George of Clarence's death
> in 1478, the heir being Margaret Beaufort, who married Edmund Tudor
> and was the mother of Richard III's successor, Henry VII, my least
> favorite English king. (I don't like his mother, either. But, then,
> I'm a Ricardian, and her scheming was largely responsible for
> Richard's fall.)
> 
> Carol, who has a theory that Lewis Carroll was also a Yorkist but
> won't go into it here

Geoff:
Watch it!

I grew up in Lancashire, my mother and maternal grandparents
being from good Lancastrian stock. However I could claim to be 
a Tudor because my father was a Yorkshireman.

Be careful I don't force feed you a diet of black pudding and Eccles 
cakes for making derogatory remarks about a great county...
:-))

Lewis Carroll does have Yorkshire connections. He was born in a 
village in Cheshire, which is the county immediately outh of Lancashire 
but at the age of 11 teh family moved to near Richmond in North 
Yorkshire so he may have cultivated white roses.