The Beauforts Re: reverse dictionary (was: "Herb - Now Aluminum")

Carol justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 20 04:57:34 UTC 2007


Geoff:
> Watch it!
> 
> I grew up in Lancashire, my mother and maternal grandparents being
from good Lancastrian stock. However I could claim to be a Tudor
because my father was a Yorkshireman.
> 
> Be careful I don't force feed you a diet of black pudding and Eccles
cakes for making derogatory remarks about a great county...
> :-))
> 
> Lewis Carroll does have Yorkshire connections. He was born in a
village in Cheshire, which is the county immediately outh of
Lancashire but at the age of 11 teh family moved to near Richmond in
North  Yorkshire so he may have cultivated white roses.
>
Carol:

Aargh! Black pudding! Save me!

Thanks for the info on Carroll. I'm not sure that being born or reared
in a particular county would necessitate identifying with the Yorkist
or Lancastrian factions, though. It's more a matter of reading the
history, wading through the biases of the chroniclers to find
something resembling the truth, and choosing a side.

In any case, Henry Tudor's father, Edmund Tudor, was the Earl of
Richmond, so that's a Lancastrian connection in Yorkshire. (The City
of York, however, was solidly for Richard, and his white boar ("bore")
emblem was an anagram for Ebor, short for Eboracum, the Roman name for
York. He chose it when he was just a boy, about twelve, IIRC.

Carol, who recommends Sharon Kay Penman's "The Sunne in Splendour" for
anyone interested in Ricardian fiction (the Wars of the Roses from the
Yorkist pov)

Carol, who doesn't know what Eccles cakes are and isn't sure she wants
to know





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