Subject-Verb agreement with compound subjects
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Fri Jun 20 15:04:26 UTC 2008
> Miles:
> > May I add something that I feel to be similar? It's from the PS
movie, in
> > the first flying lesson Madam Hooch says:
> > "I see a single broom in the air, the ONE riding it will find
THEMSELVES out
> > of Hogwarts before THEY can say 'Quidditch'!"
> >
> > Doesn't it feel odd for a native speaker to switch to plural,
although the
> > sentence starts addressing single persons? I asked a native
speaker who
> > assured me that the sentence is correct, because both male and
female
> > persons are addressed.
>
> Geoff:
> Sounds as if your native speaker is an advocate of this wretched PC
English
> whereby you can't use "he" to represent a unisex situation. This
gives rise
> to such cumbersome usage as "chairperson" or the even
uglier "chair".
Magpie:
Perhaps JKR (the native speaker here) just naturally used "they"
because Hootch was addressing a group of people in front of her so
wasn't thinking of it as plural. In that situation, speaking to a
class full of children, saying "he" could easily come across as her
assuming only a boy would be doing this, so her use of "they" makes
more sense. She's talking to 11 year olds in the 90s who wouldn't
find it odd that somebody didn't say "he." "They" often sounds wrong
to me because I must have been taught along the way to not use it, so
I use "he or she" or "one." It doesn't feel PC to me so much as
accurate. Why would I say he when I might mean someone female? I also
don't find "chair" particularly ugly. Some words sound more gendered
so I pick the one that means what I'm saying.
When I was in college if the person was talking about a hypothetical
situation they always used "she." But to me, I don't assume that
using a more neutral term has to do with people being hyper-
sensitive. It just seems the more obvious term. I suspect the use
of "he" pretty much was based on assuming an actual male and
considering men more important.
-m
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