Protest the passage of Prop 8

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 17 03:08:20 UTC 2008


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cabal" <md at ...> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's not true.
> 
> The founding Father's saw one of England's largest flaws to be the 
church
> and state in bed together.
> 
> Jefferson, as you may recall was rather instrumental in the 
constitution,
> believed in separation of church and state from day one.
> 
><SNIP>

Alla:

I remember in the preelection days having a conversation with a 
colleague who before he became a lawyer was a history teacher in 
school for I believe fifteen years.

So, this guy who is such a wonderful, helpful, knowledgeable man was 
tearing his hair apart saying I cannot believe that candidate for 
such high office can claim that pledge was there in the founding 
fathers' time and get away with it.

No, it was not. It really really was not. And he was telling me that 
suprisingly founding fathers besides believing in separation of 
church and state also (some of them believed) in a very hands - off 
God (I think he used the words ticking clock God, or something like 
that).

He was also telling me if one thinks about it, how progressive their 
beliefs were for the eighteenth century and how much we should value 
what our country was really founded on.

I am a first generation immigrant and american citizen now. I know I 
definitely value it.

Alla.





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