Protest the passage of Prop 8
dumbledore11214
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Mon Nov 17 03:08:20 UTC 2008
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Cabal" <md at ...> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's not true.
>
> The founding Father's saw one of England's largest flaws to be the
church
> and state in bed together.
>
> Jefferson, as you may recall was rather instrumental in the
constitution,
> believed in separation of church and state from day one.
>
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Alla:
I remember in the preelection days having a conversation with a
colleague who before he became a lawyer was a history teacher in
school for I believe fifteen years.
So, this guy who is such a wonderful, helpful, knowledgeable man was
tearing his hair apart saying I cannot believe that candidate for
such high office can claim that pledge was there in the founding
fathers' time and get away with it.
No, it was not. It really really was not. And he was telling me that
suprisingly founding fathers besides believing in separation of
church and state also (some of them believed) in a very hands - off
God (I think he used the words ticking clock God, or something like
that).
He was also telling me if one thinks about it, how progressive their
beliefs were for the eighteenth century and how much we should value
what our country was really founded on.
I am a first generation immigrant and american citizen now. I know I
definitely value it.
Alla.
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