Protest the passage of Prop 8
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Mon Nov 17 03:56:25 UTC 2008
> Alla:
>
> I remember in the preelection days having a conversation with a
> colleague who before he became a lawyer was a history teacher in
> school for I believe fifteen years.
>
> So, this guy who is such a wonderful, helpful, knowledgeable man
was
> tearing his hair apart saying I cannot believe that candidate for
> such high office can claim that pledge was there in the founding
> fathers' time and get away with it.
>
> No, it was not. It really really was not. And he was telling me
that
> suprisingly founding fathers besides believing in separation of
> church and state also (some of them believed) in a very hands - off
> God (I think he used the words ticking clock God, or something like
> that).
Magpie:
I think it's the "watchmaker" God--meaning that he made the world and
then went off and left it to run by itself. He's not involved. I
think Deists, which some of the founders were, would probably not be
considered Christian at all by most standards.
And not only was the Pledge not there back then, but "under God"
wasn't even in the original pledge. It was added in the 50s because
people felt that distinguished them from Communists.
-m
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