[HPFGU-OTChatter] Forbidden Forest question

Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force n2fgc at arrl.net
Sun Feb 8 06:11:07 UTC 2009


[Carol]:
| I was wondering on the Movie list what happened to the other
| Hippogriffs the five that didn't make it into the PoA film and any
| others that Hagrid might have been looking after (or intending to use
| in COMC classes that were never taught). Zanooda suggested that Hagrid
| gave them names but didn't make them into pets because they weren't
| involved in special circumstances as Buckbeak was after the Draco
| Malfoy incident. That makes sense to me and would also explain why
| none of them showed up with the Wizard-oriented, half-tamed Buckbeak
| at the Battle of Hogwarts.

[Lee]:
Hmm--I'd like to think they know how to hide themselves, knowing the forest
and all of it's hidden places.  I think they probably all know Hagrid since
he's a frequent visitor and, perhaps, he alone knows their names because
he's named them.

[Carol]:
| That led me to wonder what creatures are still left in the Forbidden
| Forest, not counting a flying Ford Anglia and possibly a flying
| motorcycle wandering wild in the forest. Grawp is tamed and no longer
| there; the unicorn-blood-drinking creature that was really
| Quirrell!mort is gone. The Acromantulas, at least the adults, seem to
| have been killed at the Battle of Hogwarts, and if I were the new
| headmaster, I'd make sure that the whole colony and its burrow were
| destroyed. (Ordinary spiders, though, you just have to live with.) 

[Lee]:
Well, I think the dome was destroyed completely since that was sort of the
place Voldemort was waiting for Harry.  However, even though they are
unfriendly and all that, I hope some survived...you know, that preservation
of a species thing.  After all, who likes rattlesnakes?  But we wouldn't
want them all destroyed because, whether we like it or not, they are God's
creatures and serve a purpose.

[Carol]:
| The
| Werewolves, I think, were just a legend. I can't imagine feral people
| who turn into werewolves on a full moon night living undetected in the
| Hogwarts forest.

[Lee]:
Well, you'd have to ask Lupin about that...or Greyback.  Besides, we don't
know how far the forest goes, do we?  It's just called "The Forbidden
Forest," not the Hogwarts Forest.

[Carol]:
| That leaves Unicorns, Centaurs, and Thestrals.
| 
| Possibly the little twig people whose name I can't remember live in
| wandwood trees in the Forbidden Forest. Might Hagrid have gotten some
| of the other creatures that the students studied or tried to study in
| COMC there? No the Blast-Ended Skrewts, obviously, since Hagrid bred
| them (from what, I don't know) and probably not the Salamanders (the
| mythical variety that live in fire, not the actual amphibians). Frogs
| and newts, those mundane but still magical creatures, probably live in
| the lake, along with the Merpeople and Grindylows (and maybe
| Flobberworms)?

[Lee]:
Bowtruckles are definitely in the forest; Harry encountered them after
meeting Grawp.  Flobberworms probably are easy to find; Fantastic Beasts
says they live in dam ditches.  So, if there are streams and stuff, they'll
be there.  Nifflers might be found in deep burrows if you know what to look
for.  And, as you say, unicorns and thestrals and centaurs are in the
forest.

Another thing you can add to your puzzle is where Lupin got his creatures
for his DADA classes.  I doubt he got them all from the forest.  Could there
be a resource for renting creatures for lessons?

[Carol]:
| Carol, who doesn't have time to look up all the creatures in Fantastic
| Beasts to see which ones are native to England or Scotland and is just
| wondering whether it's reasonably safe to wander in the forest
| post-Voldemort and where Hagrid found his creatures

[Lee]:
Well, scanning my copy of FB, looks like Bowtruckles, Crups, Pixies and
Porlocks are native to England.  Skrewts are crosses between manticores and
firecrabs.  As far as safety, well, is any forest truly safe?  Let's
see...bear attacks, cougars, etc. ...

Peace,

Lee :-)

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