[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter and God

[No Limberger]

>>Geoff wrote (to md):
>> (SNIP) it also suggests from your biographical detail that you
>>were never introduced to the real Christian faith.

>No.Limberger responds (on 5/20/2009):
>Which Christian denomination represents the "real Christian
>faith"?  Let's see, that could be one of the following:
>Roman Catholic, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Presbyterian,
>Mormon, Church of Christ, Church of God, Evangelical,
>Pentecostal, Baptist, Southern Baptist, and the list
>just goes on and on and on ad nauseum.

>The bottom line: every Christian denomination or sect views
>itself as the "real Christian faith" and says that the others
>are not.  So, while you may claim that your beliefs are
>the "real Christian faith", the vast majority of Christians
>would disagree not only with you, but with each other as
>well.
>No.Limberger wrote:
>(in response to md's post)
> I couldn't agree more. When something has been experimentally
> demonstrated or repeated multiple times, or when there is overwhelming
> scientifically-gathered data to support a theory, then there should be no
> issues in accepting these as being sound.

>>Geoff wrote:
>>I'm not quite sure I see the tie-in with what md wrote but what you
>>are highlighting are concrete, measureable facts.

>You cannot use this approach when you dealing with things which
>cannot be quantified in this way. you cannot use scientifically gathered
>data to deal with concepts such as love, faith, conscience or hope – to
>name but a handful.

>No.Limberger responds:
>If you believe in something that cannot be tested and
>qualified, then you have no idea whether it is factual.
>Some Christians are bent on the teaching of creationism
>as if that mythological belief has, in any way, any scientific
>foundation as evolution does.  Some Christians refuse to
>obtain medical care for themselves and/or their children
>because it goes against their belief that they have to pray
>to be cured.

No.Limberger writes:
I came across a news article that ties directly into what I
wrote on this thread nearly 2 months ago: some Christians
refusing medical treatment either for themselves and/or
their children.  In 2008, a couple living in the state of Oregon (in
the U.S.) refused to obtain medical treatment for their
15-month old daughter due to their belief in their particular
Christian sect that rejects all conventional medical treatment
in favor of prayer.  The couple is now on trial for manslaughter
in their daughter's death resulting from medical neglect, which
included denying food to their daughter with the belief that that
would also help heal their child who had developed a lump that
was beginning to block the trachea.  Even when the child stopped
breathing (in March, 2008), the parents refused to call 9-1-1 to
get emergency medical care.  (Article reference:
http://www.katu.com/news/50677407.html.)

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