Redemption of Anakin and other redemption stories (moved from Main)

[dumbledore11214]

> Kemper now:
> Speaking for myself, the difference I see between Zuko and Snape is how they came to be good.  Zuko's redemption is more thoughtful, more internal.  Zuko is not guilted into good, he wrestles with it based on what he learns from his uncle and what he's been taught by his dad.  Snape feels like a d-bag for putting Lily at risk and wants to save her not because he wants to be good but because he has the hawts for her. Seeking freedom from guilt is not the same as striving for deliverance from sin which is my definition of redemption.  

Alla:

Well yeah, I am just wondering if redemption could not different for different personalities. Maybe for Snape what started with Lily could have lead to some more general thing. I am not sure I do get the deliverance from sin part, but I have to sleep on it.

Kemper: 
> Going back to Anakin.  I like Snape more mostly because he didn't murder a temple of younglings.  Knowing that back story (screw you Lucas) makes it difficult to cheer the Anakin/Vader in Return of the Jedi.  <SNIP>

Alla:

Oh. Good thing I did not see that movie. Um, I will continue to ignore that I mean, cause THAT would make me reevaluate things a lot.

However, yes, as I said if I pretend I have not read it, the fact that what to me read as main conflict in the story was resolved, worked well.