Redemption of Anakin and other redemption stories (moved from Main)

[dumbledore11214]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sistermagpie" <sistermagpie at ...> wrote:
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> Also, to relate it to Anakin, I wouldn't really call him redeemed either. In his case it's really just a case of two different states of being clearly laid out: the Light and Dark Side of the Force. In the first movie Vader's in the thrall of the Dark Side, obviously. In ESB you see him starting to crack--maybe he'll break free of it (i.e., also break free of acting on anger, hate, fear etc.). In RotJ Luke says he can feel the good in him, the part that would rather choose life and love and his son.
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> So in the end he chooses that side, he destroys the emperor and loves his son.
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> Is that redemption? Not really. I mean, killing the emperor is a good act that will help win the war, but it's not like he's going to get a chance to do an equally good act for everything he did. Anakin, imo, doesn't die redeemed so much as he dies free and dies a Jedi who's come back to himself. That's the way he dies, so that's how his spirit exists when Luke sees him at the end. 
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> I wouldn't really argue with somebody who said the Anakin arc was about fall and redemption or whatever, but I don't really think of it that way. Especially since Anakin is saved by Luke. He has to take the last step himself, of course, but I'd still say that Luke saves him (as Anakin himself says). 


Alla:

I think I was just concentrating on the forgiveness aspect of the redemption stories, forgiveness and paying off the debt, you know, whether it is metaphorical or direct repayment and sort of was not thinking about transformative and understanging aspect.

Thank you, your previous post REALLY helped :)