Good story/bad writer: (Was: What a snob!)/SPOILER for Twilight and Dawn

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> zanooda:
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> But this is physically impossible, so what's the point for her to wish that :-)? He can't turn back human, the poor boy can't even die properly, even when he wants to ;-(. But I agree with you about Bella becoming a vampire, and I must say that after she was not human anymore I lost all interest in the book :-). I think that the writer also understands that it's all wrong, that's why she invented other (and more important) reasons for her heroine to become a vampire, except for her desire to be with her love (who doesn't want to change her either).

Alla:

I know, I was just saying that the reason to be with her love in that interpretation is not good for me, if she wished for him to become human no matter how impossible it was and then by accident or necessity she had become a vampire I would have still felt better. But when she coldly and selfishly wanted to be someone who drinks human blood, um, sorry I hate you stupid selfish twit, very very much.




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> > I however cannot think of vampires as anything else but 
> > monsters and to me, no boy is worth being with if you 
> > have to become a monster herself.
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> zanooda:
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> No, I don't see Meyer's vampires as monsters at all (I mean the Cullens, of course, not the evil vampires, LOL), especially someone like Carlisle, who didn't kill one single human in his very long life. I think someone who devoted his life to serving humans instead of killing them and feeding off them doesn't deserve to be called a monster :-). Some human serial killer is a thousand times more of a monster, IMO. However, I agree with you that it's creepy to wish to become one of them, that's why the last book felt for me like some kind of a not very good horror movie :-). 


Alla:

I meant that all vampires to me are monsters by default, definitely some of them do not want to be monsters and exorcise monsters out, but to me it is still there. I know she did not want to portray Cullens as monsters, but no matter how "vegan" they are lol, they are still portrayed as fighting against wanting human blood, right? Of course they do not want to kill humans and Carlisle did not even, but even Edward did, right during his eh retreat, unless I am misremembering (before books started I mean, what he tells Bella).

Like werewolves are monsters for me, and I do not consider Jacob or Remus  Lupin to be one.

And yes, fourth book gave me same creepy feeling, adding to that a big EWWWWWWWW when Jacob bonded with her daughter. Half of the book I was screaming, please do not be such self absorbing twit anymore than you already are, please you dolt, please let poor boy go, LET HIM GO. You have one, do not let him suffer any more (Jacob I mean). And no, I was not invested in them as a couple, or anything like that, as I said, I read books 2 and 3 in one page plot summary, no time to get invested in Jacob alone or Jacob and Bella, I did like his narrative though in book 4. And lo and behold here we go, he bonds to her newborn, EWWWW, just EWWW and Gross if you ask me.

JMO,

Alla