[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron/ Definition of "Shipper" & "Mary Sue"

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer pennylin at swbell.net
Wed Dec 20 03:07:09 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7347

Hi --

marty at martynet.org wrote:

> (While I'm talking about this, I want to know why the benevolent folks
>
> at Hogwarts keep sending Harry back to his abusive home?  They know
> too
> much to NOT know that the Dursleys actually torture Harry -- depriving
>
> him of food and locking him up physically -- aside from the emotional
> abuse.  I really have a problem with that, and the message it sends to
>
> kids who read it.)

We've talked alot about this.  You might search the archives for posts
around end of Sept & beginning of Oct (I know because I was out of town
then & came home to a full inbox about the abusive Dursleys & what it
might all mean, etc.).  At base, my belief is that the Dursleys serve a
fairy tale archetype and that JKR isn't really trying to address the
abused child issue too much.  But, read the past posts if you want to
really know what all was discussed before.

> What do you call someone who would be interested in seeing an
> adolescent
> fling between Harry and Ron?  I think it would be a rather sweet added
>
> dimension to their friendship (future or past).  Given the strong
> feelings that were flying around GoF between them, the jealousy, the
> frustration when they were fighting, the fact that Ron was Harry's
> "thing he'd miss most," I don't think it's even too far-fetched.

Carole already filled you in on the slash genre.  I will only add that
the "thing he'd miss most" business is most likely just a function of
the plot.  Harry doesn't have a girlfriend at that point like Cedric &
Krum, and it sort of helped the plot along that both Harry's best
friends were down at the bottom of the lake along with his love interest
(Cho).  Otherwise, there wouldn't be that nobility bit going on.  And,
don't forget that he didn't take Ron to the surface & then try to come
back & be the hero -- he immediately turned to help Hermione & refused
to leave until he could be sure of her safety (& Cho's).

Not that you were maybe all that serious about the "thing he'd miss
most," right?  <g>  Anyway, as Carole said, slash is out there.  I'm
sure there's plenty over on fanfiction.net

> Now you're going to throw me out, aren't you? :->

Not at all!  Welcome!  We're a very tolerant & diverse crowd ....

Penny



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