[HPforGrownups] Let's be fair! (was the H/H kiss and other stuff . ..)

[Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 8239

Hi --

Ebony wrote:

> It makes sense, but do you really think that it's fair to give others
> a virtual hand-slap because they enjoy this sort of discussion?

I agree with Ebony.  There are plenty of topics that get bandied about
on this group that I ignore because I'm uninterested, giving priority to
other topics, unknowledgeable or sick to death of hashing & rehashing.
We all have our interests, and I don't think it's "fair" to label a
discussion "pointless" for all people who might be enjoying the debates.

The shipper debates come & go in waves.  I know because I wrote the FAQ
on that topic, and the messages are grouped together in big lumps,
usually with 2-3 months in between each big grouping.  It's a pattern
that I would imagine will likely continue.

> I don't think that H/Hers are "louder" than R/Hers--what a blatant
> generalization.  The list is certainly not pro-H/H.  The only H/Hers
> that have *regularly* posted on this topic are Penny and myself.
> There are at least several H/H fanfic writers here who barely ever
> say anything at all.

Yes, I agree with that too.  To be honest, I think the R/H crowd has
been considerably more vocal with the shipper debates the last couple of
weeks than the H/H group.  But, like Ebony said, that would be a
generalization.  I do think the list can hardly be classified as
pro-H/H.  The PoU list *is* pro-H/H by & large for obvious reasons, but
this group seems pretty divided.  The fact that my name is the only one
that seems to get dredged up everytime some R/H person wants to make a
point about the H/H arguments should tell us all that.  <g>

Kathy wrote:

> Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that you can't read all the H/H stuff into the books and then say there's "no" evidence
> that Hermione could like Ron back.  There's just as much evidence; you just have
> to be willing to see it.
>
What I should have said is there is no *irrefutable* evidence that
Hermione likes Ron back.  It is, in my mind, irrefutable that Ron likes
Hermione.  It is likewise irrefutable that Harry has not expressed any
romantic interest in Hermione.  What is open to debate on all sides are
Hermione's feelings.  I think the arguments that she likes Ron are
arguable, subject to more than one interpretation.  Just like the "kiss"
(and the other H/H evidence) is subject to more than one
interpretation.  I've merely been arguing my case more strongly.  I
*could* argue R/H if I chose to.  I just think H/H is stronger -- that's
all.  I think Hermione's feelings can't be ignored in the equation, and
her feelings are not exactly crystal clear at this point.

Penny






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