Crouch Summary/tragic hero

[Susan McGee]

No: HPFGUIDX 6173

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Peg Kerr <pkerr06 at a...> wrote:
> Joywitch wrote:
> 
> > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Denise Rogers" 
<gypsycaine at y...>
> > wrote:
> > > In the below scenario, Joywitch, would you also then classify 
our
> > favorite
> > > ham as a classic tragic character?
> >
> > Hmmm.  I am probably the wrong person to ask; I have a pretty 
narrow
> > vision of what makes a tragic character.  <snip>
> >
> > Guilt/innocence/tragedy/evil are tough things to grapple with, so 
I
> > will leave any further analysis to the heavy philosophical hitters
> > like Peg.


Hmmm...I always thought of a tragic hero as someone who is noble or 
could be noble and has a tragic flaw, and makes a bad choice that 
encompasses his/her own downfall.

I always thought that Shakespeare portrayed Richard III as a villain 
rather than as a tragic hero, whereas in real life he was more of the 
tragic hero.

Arthur takes the action that results in his own death --- by sleeping 
with Mordred's mother

Pentheus in the Bacchae is one of the classic tragic heroes, and I 
would in fact compare him to Bartemius Crouch, Senior..who also loves 
rules, and order. Yes, he should have left the prosecution of his son
to others, but the action that led to his downfall was allowing his 
son to escape from Azkeban. If that had not occurred, he would still 
be alive and running his department at the MoM.

Lupin is another character who falls into this...Snape, despite his 
unpleasantness, might...we need to know the details of why Dumbledore 
trusts him....

Susan





> >
> > --Joywitch
> 
> Yikes!  Don't I already have enough on my plate?