OT--Weathermen?

[Denise Rogers]

No: HPFGUIDX 2941

Susan,
even though I am 32, I do not recall this name.  Perhaps it's because we only got as far as 1950's and the Korean War?  (Majored in Socials Studies, with about 4 different  Histories in HS... still is "unschooled", lol!)

:)
Dee

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan McGee 
  To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2000 10:04 PM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Voldemort as History


  --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Amanda Lewanski <editor at t...> wrote:
  > Steve Vander Ark wrote:
  > 
  > > Of course, it's strange to think that kids in the Wizarding World
  > > don't know the details about this very important aspect of their 
  own
  > > history.
  > 
  > A couple of relevant (I hope) factors, rather jumbled up: Remember 
  this
  > is a relatively small community. We've, through Harry's experience,
  > bumped up against the ignorance factor before--things that "everyone
  > knows," that no one thinks to explain, that everyone just assumes
  > everyone else knows. Since information dissemination in a smaller
  > community is often just as much word-of-mouth as formal instruction,
  > perhaps the events of recent years and their aftermath were so 
  immediate
  > that people are only now beginning to realize that *some* people 
  will be
  > around who didn't live it and *don't* remember it.
  > 
  > When you add the fear factor, I'm not surprised it's not taught yet.
  > Voldemort's supposed to be *gone,* that's why Harry's famous, the 
  threat
  > is over. The adults don't want reminding, and the children who were
  > babies then are only now getting to be old enough to start asking.
  > 
  > I'm in much the same place with the Vietnam War, that Harry and his
  > age-group are with the Voldemort Years--I remember "make love not 
  war"
  > patches on little 1st-grade classmates' coats, hearing that the war 
  was
  > over, etc. But I was little, didn't know what was going on, and 
  never did
  > properly understand it until college, when it had finally made it 
  to the
  > history books. But in all the interim it was spoken of and referred 
  to by
  > all of society like everyone knew all about it. Maybe only now the
  > "assumed knowledge" gap is starting to be perceptible.
  > 
  > Boy, I hope some of that made sense. I still know what I was trying 
  to
  > say, but I'm not sure I said it.
  > 
  > --Amanda


  Amanda, I think you've made an outstanding point. 
  Also, I remember when it was much, much harder to 
  track down accurate information about history. You
  had to leave the house (often) and go to the library.
  You couldn't do a web search and get immediate, fairly
  accurate information on many subjects. The personal computer
  (imagined by anti-war activists), the internet, the web, have 
  made knowledge much more accessible.

  I was stunned when I found out that my 16 year old godson had
  not known his mother was in the Weather Underground (Weathermen),
  and that most people in their 20s have never heard of it (and you 
  can't find much on a web search either). Yet most people who remember
  the Vietnam War could tell you what the Weathermen were, and many of 
  them could cite the song the name came from!

  Very few people remember that the majority of the country was against 
  the Vietnam War......an outpouring of activism that is harder to
  imagine today (actually HP fandom is close!)....

  Susan


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