[HPforGrownups] Re: Mr. Malfoy & the Chamber of Secrets?

[Amanda Lewanski]

No: HPFGUIDX 4211

Kelley wrote:

> I had the impression that Lucius was working for Vold, trying to find
> a way to get Vold back on the road to power.  I think what started
> the action is Vold is trying to come back, as he was in SS trying to
> get the philosopher's stone.

But wasn't Voldemort's bitterest complaint in GoF that none of his
supporters until Wormtail had come to find him? Surely if Lucius were in
contact with him, he [V] would not have been lurking in a forest possessing
rats until Wormtail arrived?

I think the action here is totally independent and had nothing to do with
Harry directly, until *after* echo-Tom learned of the defeat of his future
self from Ginny. Lucius may well have been acting under orders from the
echo-Tom, but I doubt it, since the echo would have learned of Harry then.
Perhaps Lucius just thought the time had come to strew a little mayhem at
Hogwarts, with Draco there to fan the flames and all.

> I also thought that
> Vold in GoF knew the info his "memory" self received in CoS.  TR jr.
> learned that Lily's love is what saved Harry the first time, and this
> info is why he wanted Harry's blood in GoF, to counteract
> the 'protection' Harry had from her love.

I think he worked this out in the long, dark years of lurking in forests
possessing chipmunks. He says in GoF that it's an ancient magic, "I should
have remembered it," which indicates to me that said ancient magic was known
to him even at the time of Lily's and James' murders. He just forgot, and
figured out what must have caused his plans to go awry while twiddling his
figurative thumbs waiting for a lackey or decent possessee to show up.

> Plus, while I believe
> Harry is always Vold's target, getting Dumble out of the way is an
> important part of his plan to conquer Harry.

Rethink. Getting Dumble out of the way is an important part of his plan to
conquer the world. He knew this much as a student at Hogwarts. His future
self realized that getting Harry out of the way was a biggie, too, but Harry
is not the objective; he's a rung on the ladder.

I've put my finger on it; what bothers me about book 2. It's that
"interlude" feeling, sort of. The action must be seen so we'll know certain
things and understand certain relationships, but this is the only book of
the four that feels at all contrived as a vehicle for these revelations more
than an entity that needed to be written.

The confusing part arises because the bad guys are the same, but different.
There's no reason to believe there's any communication betwixt the echo-Tom
and Voldemort. I don't think what happens to the memory becomes part of V's
memories; that seems a bit farfetched.

--Amanda