[HPforGrownups] Re: Mr. Malfoy & the Chamber of Secrets?

[Amanda Lewanski]

No: HPFGUIDX 4326

Kelley wrote:

> It seems that the whole point of TR jr. learning of Lily's counter-
> charm in CoS, is that he didn't know why he was defeated, and all
> Harry got was a scar, (which yes, he learned from Ginny).  With this
> info, as he was sitting in the forest in Albania, he probably
> thought, "D'oh! The ancient magic!  How could I have forgotten
> that?"  And then began making his plans to counter this
> protection...?

Yeah, but I haven't heard anyone positing a theory as to how the defeated
Voldemort lurking someplace obtained information from a re-animated memory
committed to a separate object (the diary) long years ago and thinking and
acting on its own via life-energy obtained in the present day. The diary
entity clearly knew nothing of Voldemort's existence or actions past his own
sixteenth year, and enough had happened up to that point that he thought the
memory should be preserved.

> Amanda: > I've put my finger on it; what bothers me about book 2. It's
> that  "interlude" feeling, sort of. The action must be seen so we'll know
> certain things and understand certain relationships, but this is the only
> book of the four that feels at all contrived as a vehicle for these
> revelations more than an entity that needed to be written.

> I absolutely see your point here, it's a very good one, but couldn't
> the point of CoS be that Lucius is still being a DE, and trying to do
> ~something~ to help his lord Vold?

Yes, but isn't this exactly the type of revelation I was talking about, that
we need to know and that book 2 is more a vehicle for than a story on its
own?

> Yes, I see that there's no reason to think there ~is~ communication,
> but there is a possibility that present Vold may have learned about
> the protection, etc., from memory-Tom Riddle.  (Don't ask me
> how, ;o].)

Sorry. How? For Voldemort-of-the-forest to have learned what saved Harry in
their confrontation from Tom-o-the-diary, there *must* have been some sort
of communication, and I don't see how. Tom didn't learn what he wanted to
know until that confrontation scene in the Chamber, and he "died" shortly
thereafter when Harry put the fang through the diary. The animating energy
he'd stolen from Ginny was returned, and the spell which caused him to
"live" in the pages was destroyed. If there were some sort of psychic
connection between Tom and Voldemort, I don't think Voldemort would have
wasted any time having Tom or Ginny start contacting Death Eaters to have
someone come and GET him already!

> I
> suspect that JKR will prove every one of my theories to be total
> poppycock...

As do we all.....

--Amanda