Ron & Harry Fight

[eggplant88 at hotmail.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 4880

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:
>Harry contributed to prolonging their fight with his outburst at Ron

I think Harry was being very restrained and civilized. I'm not as 
good a person as Harry, I would have knocked Ron's block off. 

>and his refusal to try & talk to Ron. 

But what could Harry say? Ron wanted Harry to apologize for putting 
his name in the goblet but Harry couldn't do that because he didn't 
put his name in the goblet and there is nothing to apologize for even 
if he did. 









 Hi --
> 
> eggplant88 at h... wrote:
> 
> > You're giving reasons why Ron was an ass, perhaps your theory is
> > correct, perhaps not, it doesn't matter, he's still an ass, he 
still
> > unjustly called his best friend a liar. I happen to think that's a
> > very big deal, I think it would permanently poison most 
friendships,
> > it's just lucky for Ron that Harry has a forgiving nature. Few 
people
> > are fortunate enough to have a friend as good as Harry and Ron 
almost
> > threw it away.
> 
> I really don't think it was as serious as all that!  Yes, Ron's
> accusations are serious but probably not enough to "permanently 
poison"
> their friendship.  I mean . . . yes, I agree that Ron was the one
> largely at fault for that fight.  I do think that since Hermione 
picked
> up from the look on Harry's face that he didn't submit his name 
into the
> Goblet, Ron should have come to the same conclusion.  I also think 
it's
> possible that Hermione said, "Hey look!  Harry didn't put his name 
in
> the Goblet, and he's really worried that someone has it in for 
him."  If
> that's the case, then Ron's stubborn insistence on not making up 
with
> Harry is more serious.  On the other hand, I have the distinct
> impression that Hermione was spending virtually all her time with 
Harry,
> so maybe she made no real effort to try & explain things to Ron.  
She
> did seem to think it was something they should work out between
> themselves.  I still think she largely chose sides to some extent by
> spending all or most of her time with Harry.
> 
> But, in general, they were both at fault for prolonging the
> estrangement.  Ron did start the fight but Harry contributed to it 
being
> strung out.  I think it's reasonably understandable why Harry 
prolonged
> the fight (Ron had just interrupted his conversation with Sirius, 
the
> only person outside of Hermione who he's able to confide in & 
possibly
> his only chance against the dragon he thinks).  His outburst of 
anger at
> Ron at that point is definitely understandable IMO.
> 
> So, my take on it is: (a) Ron was a prat for starting the argument, 
(b)
> Ron should have known himself or through Hermione that he was being 
a
> prat, and if he did, then he's more stubborn & insecure than we 
thought,
> (c) Harry contributed to prolonging their fight with his outburst 
at Ron
> and his refusal to try & talk to Ron.  They're *both* stubborn.  
But, it
> wasn't, IMO, ever as threatening to their friendship as eggplant
> asserts.
> 
> Penny
> 
> 
> 
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