[HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels

Sister Mary Lunatic klaatu at primenet.com
Mon Sep 4 02:08:55 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 940

Fans gave it 4 stars out of 5, but the reviewers don't like it.  (So what's
new?)

Amazon.com
Far from the masterful treatment that groundbreaking animator Ralph Bakshi
gave the similarly
themed The Lord of the Rings just a year later, Wizards feels amateurish. A
simplistic
distillation of fantasy tropes, the scenario is millions of years after
nuclear war wipes out
civilization. Middle Earth fairies, elves, and magic emerge from the "good
lands," while
dimwitted mutants with poor comic timing emerge from the nuclear wastes. In
the ultimate
confrontation between good and evil, a hippie-ish wizard named Avatar
defends his utopia
against the technological and neo-Nazi revival of his bad-seed twin,
Blackwolf. With volleys of jokes that couldn't hit a barn door, elves with
Brooklyn accents, and the dubious climax that sees the kindly old wizard
using one of the hated machines of war to triumph over evil,
Wizards is one of fantasy animation's least successful examples. --Alan E.
Rapp



-----Original Message-----
From: Denise [mailto:gypsycaine at yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:09 PM
To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels


Bless you, yes, that's it.  Now all I need is the wizard!
:D
Dee
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Steve Bates
  To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:04 PM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels



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  Wasn't it Bakshi? Ralph Bakshi?

  --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Denise" <gypsycaine at y...> wrote:
  > Now, one good example of a "pic" of WW2 is the movie WIZARDS, and I
  am not spelling Ralph's last name--same man who did the Hobbit--for
  fear of murdering it terribly.  I have his COOL WORLD, but am still
  hoping to grab up a copy of his WIZARDS.  It's a rather interesting
  rental, if you locate it.  I can see similarities between Dumbledore
  and the lead good wizard (ack, I NEED THAT COPY!  I can recall
  Eleanor (prolly due to the lack of clothing) but A~~~ is all I grab
  from my head for the wizard.  And of course "Fritz!  They killed
  Fritz!" years before anyone had even dreamt of the certain show on
  the Comedy Central for adults only on Wed at 10...  Yes, I know the
  name, but the show has degraded to the fact that only one decent part
  remains, Salty Chocolate Balls!)
  >
  > I also have the RPG series created that is based on the Movie.
  It's an interesting read, trust me!
  >
  > ;D
  > Dee
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Steve Bates
  >   To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
  >   Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:54 PM
  >   Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  >
  >
  >   As a big Lord of the Rings fan I have to correct you here; I
  >   apologize if it seems pedantic.  First of all, LOTR is a trilogy,
  not
  >   a tetralogy.  The Hobbit is a prequel to LOTR and is not part of
  the
  >   series.  If you want to get even more technical, the "trilogy"
  should
  >   really be considered one long work divided into three volumes,
  but
  >   still separate from The Hobbit.
  >   More importantly though, Tolkien repeatedly denied that LOTR is a
  >   fantasy version of WWII.  And of course, there have been millions
  of
  >   people who don't believe that at all.  But I really don't think
  >   Tolkien intended to be writing about World War II: he started
  writing
  >   LOTR well before the War started and had a pretty good idea even
  then
  >   of where he was going with it.  Just because he wrote about *a*
  war
  >   doesn't mean he was writing about *that* war.  Nothing annoyed
  him
  >   more than people who continued to insist otherwise.
  >
  >   --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Jim Hohman" <jickndim at g...>
  wrote:
  >   > I don't know about Harry Potter but certainly the 'Lord of the
  >   Rings"
  >   > tetrology was a reference to WWII.
  >   >
  >   > Jim
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Alicia/Sue Spinnet"
  >   > <AliciaSpinnet at h...> wrote:
  >   > > Hello:
  >   > >
  >   > > I think I've seen this topic somewhere-- probably here-- but
  when
  >   I
  >   > > was reading the last line of a post on McCarthyism in the
  50's
  >   > > ("...the true Dark Wizards of our times..."), something in my
  >   brain
  >   > > jarred.
  >   > >
  >   > > Voldemort strives for world domination, attracts a following
  >   based
  >   > on
  >   > > promises of wealth and power (and fear on the part of those
  who
  >   > join
  >   > > his ranks), and possesses a disgusting prejudice towards
  those
  >   who
  >   > > aren't pureblooded, going as far to kill half-bloods and
  Muggle-
  >   > > borns.  Adolf Hitler almost took over Europe, built up the
  >   > popularity
  >   > > of the Third Reich through promises and fear, and was the
  evil
  >   > > mastermind behind the concentration camps.
  >   > >
  >   > > Is this merely a comparison between the fictional and
  >   > non-fictional,
  >   > > or a portrayal of evil villains throughout history in general?
  >   > >
  >   > > Knowing J.K.'s propensity for social messages, I wouldn't be
  all
  >   > that
  >   > > surprised if it was the former, but what do you all (who are
  >   > probably
  >   > > better educated than I am in the area of history) think?
  >   > >
  >   > > Just my two Knuts--
  >   > >
  >   > > *
  >   > > --Alicia/Sue "Distressed Panda" Spinnet
  >   > >
  >   > > "Is this something I'll regret?  Why do I want what I can't
  >   get?" --
  >   > > Blink-182, "Wendy Clear"
  >   > >
  >   > > Last Movie Seen: "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels"
  >   > > Discman's Spinning: "Pack Up the Cats", Local H
  >   > > Current Book: "A Long Fatal Love Chase", Louisa May Alcott
  >   > > *
  >
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