[HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels

[Denise]

No: HPFGUIDX 941

Thanks. So Amazon is selling it now?  When I checked in last, when thinking about it, it was oop.

Sighs.

Dee    

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  Fans gave it 4 stars out of 5, but the reviewers don't like it.  (So what's
  new?)

  Amazon.com
  Far from the masterful treatment that groundbreaking animator Ralph Bakshi
  gave the similarly
  themed The Lord of the Rings just a year later, Wizards feels amateurish. A
  simplistic
  distillation of fantasy tropes, the scenario is millions of years after
  nuclear war wipes out
  civilization. Middle Earth fairies, elves, and magic emerge from the "good
  lands," while
  dimwitted mutants with poor comic timing emerge from the nuclear wastes. In
  the ultimate
  confrontation between good and evil, a hippie-ish wizard named Avatar
  defends his utopia
  against the technological and neo-Nazi revival of his bad-seed twin,
  Blackwolf. With volleys of jokes that couldn't hit a barn door, elves with
  Brooklyn accents, and the dubious climax that sees the kindly old wizard
  using one of the hated machines of war to triumph over evil,
  Wizards is one of fantasy animation's least successful examples. --Alan E.
  Rapp



  -----Original Message-----
  From: Denise [mailto:gypsycaine at yahoo.com]
  Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 6:09 PM
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  Bless you, yes, that's it.  Now all I need is the wizard!
  :D
  Dee
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    From: Steve Bates
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    Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 9:04 PM
    Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels



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    Wasn't it Bakshi? Ralph Bakshi?

    --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Denise" <gypsycaine at y...> wrote:
    > Now, one good example of a "pic" of WW2 is the movie WIZARDS, and I
    am not spelling Ralph's last name--same man who did the Hobbit--for
    fear of murdering it terribly.  I have his COOL WORLD, but am still
    hoping to grab up a copy of his WIZARDS.  It's a rather interesting
    rental, if you locate it.  I can see similarities between Dumbledore
    and the lead good wizard (ack, I NEED THAT COPY!  I can recall
    Eleanor (prolly due to the lack of clothing) but A~~~ is all I grab
    from my head for the wizard.  And of course "Fritz!  They killed
    Fritz!" years before anyone had even dreamt of the certain show on
    the Comedy Central for adults only on Wed at 10...  Yes, I know the
    name, but the show has degraded to the fact that only one decent part
    remains, Salty Chocolate Balls!)
    >
    > I also have the RPG series created that is based on the Movie.
    It's an interesting read, trust me!
    >
    > ;D
    > Dee
    >   ----- Original Message -----
    >   From: Steve Bates
    >   To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
    >   Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:54 PM
    >   Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Evil Parallels
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >   As a big Lord of the Rings fan I have to correct you here; I
    >   apologize if it seems pedantic.  First of all, LOTR is a trilogy,
    not
    >   a tetralogy.  The Hobbit is a prequel to LOTR and is not part of
    the
    >   series.  If you want to get even more technical, the "trilogy"
    should
    >   really be considered one long work divided into three volumes,
    but
    >   still separate from The Hobbit.
    >   More importantly though, Tolkien repeatedly denied that LOTR is a
    >   fantasy version of WWII.  And of course, there have been millions
    of
    >   people who don't believe that at all.  But I really don't think
    >   Tolkien intended to be writing about World War II: he started
    writing
    >   LOTR well before the War started and had a pretty good idea even
    then
    >   of where he was going with it.  Just because he wrote about *a*
    war
    >   doesn't mean he was writing about *that* war.  Nothing annoyed
    him
    >   more than people who continued to insist otherwise.
    >
    >   --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Jim Hohman" <jickndim at g...>
    wrote:
    >   > I don't know about Harry Potter but certainly the 'Lord of the
    >   Rings"
    >   > tetrology was a reference to WWII.
    >   >
    >   > Jim
    >   >
    >   >
    >   > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Alicia/Sue Spinnet"
    >   > <AliciaSpinnet at h...> wrote:
    >   > > Hello:
    >   > >
    >   > > I think I've seen this topic somewhere-- probably here-- but
    when
    >   I
    >   > > was reading the last line of a post on McCarthyism in the
    50's
    >   > > ("...the true Dark Wizards of our times..."), something in my
    >   brain
    >   > > jarred.
    >   > >
    >   > > Voldemort strives for world domination, attracts a following
    >   based
    >   > on
    >   > > promises of wealth and power (and fear on the part of those
    who
    >   > join
    >   > > his ranks), and possesses a disgusting prejudice towards
    those
    >   who
    >   > > aren't pureblooded, going as far to kill half-bloods and
    Muggle-
    >   > > borns.  Adolf Hitler almost took over Europe, built up the
    >   > popularity
    >   > > of the Third Reich through promises and fear, and was the
    evil
    >   > > mastermind behind the concentration camps.
    >   > >
    >   > > Is this merely a comparison between the fictional and
    >   > non-fictional,
    >   > > or a portrayal of evil villains throughout history in general?
    >   > >
    >   > > Knowing J.K.'s propensity for social messages, I wouldn't be
    all
    >   > that
    >   > > surprised if it was the former, but what do you all (who are
    >   > probably
    >   > > better educated than I am in the area of history) think?
    >   > >
    >   > > Just my two Knuts--
    >   > >
    >   > > *
    >   > > --Alicia/Sue "Distressed Panda" Spinnet
    >   > >
    >   > > "Is this something I'll regret?  Why do I want what I can't
    >   get?" --
    >   > > Blink-182, "Wendy Clear"
    >   > >
    >   > > Last Movie Seen: "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels"
    >   > > Discman's Spinning: "Pack Up the Cats", Local H
    >   > > Current Book: "A Long Fatal Love Chase", Louisa May Alcott
    >   > > *
    >
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