The gap in the Weasley family

milz absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Tue Sep 19 17:09:04 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 1719

The whole thing about their ages is this. We don't know for sure 
about it.

Is it possible for Charlie to lead the Quidditch Team to victory one 
year and not the rest? Yes! If the non-championship teams had players 
who weren't as good as the championship team. The Gryffindor Team 
before Harry joined needed a good Seeker, which means (to me) that 
the other players were good and the Seeker position was what was 
holding them back. So when the Twins, Katie, and Angelina graduate 
and are replaced by players who aren't as good, it's quite possible 
that Harry won't be able to carry the team. Maybe the same thing 
happened to Charlie. OR maybe Charlie was injured and couldn't play 
Quidditch anymore. That would make sense because he could have had a 
promising professional career, but instead he's studying dragons in 
Romania. Another thing is that we don't know what year Charlie was 
when he won the Quidditch House Cup (the books only say it was 7 
years ago when Charlie was the Seeker)
he could have won it
anywhere 
from his second year to his seventh year. All we know is that he won 
it seven years before Book 3 happened. If Charlie won it in his 7th 
year, then Percy would have been starting Hogwarts at that time. So 
Percy is about seven years younger than Charlie IF Charlie won the 
House Cup in his seventh year. 

Again, these are big IFs.

Another thing...Ron and Ginny are one year apart age-wise...who's to 
say that Bill and Charlie aren't either?

;-) Milz
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer 
<linsenma at h...> wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> milz wrote:
> 
> > Harry being the youngest Quiddtich player in the last 100 years is
> > very important because first years aren't generally allowed to be 
on
> > the Quidditch teams. So, Charlie HAD to have been at least a 
second
> > year when he began playing on the team.
> 
> I agree with that much.  <g>
> 
> > Bill is the eldest Weasley son. Charlie is the second eldest. So 
if
> > the last time Bill was at Hogwarts was when he was a student (17-
18
> > years old) and if that was "five years ago", then Bill would be 
22-23
> > in Book 4.
> 
> This is where we start to diverge I think.  I don't think it's wise 
to
> assume that Bill *must* have been a student when he was there 5 yrs
> earlier.  In fact, that *can't* work now that I think about it 
more.  If
> he was there as a *student* 5 yrs before GoF, that's *one* year 
prior to
> SS (PS).  That doesn't work because Charlie is said to be younger 
than
> Bill.  So, Charlie would have still been at Hogwarts in SS if Bill 
had
> only been gone one year.  Let's see . . . . 5 yrs prior to spring 
of GoF
> (1995) is 1990.  So, if Bill left Hogwarts in 1990, Charlie could
> theoretically have left in the spring of 1991, with Ron & Harry 
starting
> Hogwarts in the fall of 1991.
> 
> *But,* that sure doesn't square with the chronology of Gryffindor 
not
> having won the Quidditch Cup in 7 yrs (which is since Charlie left).
> 
> I also think that it's not wise to think that Bill must have been a
> student when he was last at Hogwarts (5 yrs prior to GoF) since he's
> obviously there as an alumnus in GoF.  So, if 5 yrs after GoF, he 
goes
> back & comments "I haven't seen this place in 5 yrs," it would 
surely be
> a mistake to assume he'd last been a student in 1995 when he was 
there
> for the 3rd Task.  See what I mean?
> 
> > In Book 3, Bill would have been 21-22 years old AND the last time
> > Gryffindor won the House Quidditch Cup was 7 years ago. So Bill 
would
> > have been 14 to 15 years old when the Quidditch Cup was won (21-
22 -
> > 7 years = 14-15 years). Since Charlie had to be at least in his
> > second year to be eligible to play on the Quidditch Team, Charlie 
HAS
> > to be at the most 2 years younger than Bill.
> 
> So, under this logic, Charlie helped them win the Quidditch Cup as 
a 2nd
> or 3rd year, but then didn't win the Quidditch Cup for his last 4-5 
yrs
> at Hogwarts.  This doesn't make much sense to me, considering that 
it's
> said in several places that they haven't won the Quidditch Cup since
> Charlie left, which surely implies very strongly that they last won 
the
> Cup during his *final* year at Hogwarts.  If he was only good 
enough to
> help them win the Cup that one year, then why is he touted as such a
> great Quidditch player, a player who could have played for England 
if he
> hadn't gone off chasing dragons?  I think this means that they last 
won
> the Cup in 1987, which was Charlie's 7th year at Hogwarts.  This 
makes
> him about 24-25 in GoF.
> 
> Penny
> 
> 
> 
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