Ron Week : More Questions
firoza10 at yahoo.com
firoza10 at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 10 19:09:42 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 16289
Hello everyone!
I have read a number of posts regarding Ron and his preconceived
prejudices. I am a firm believer in 'Ron is the readers guide to the
inside workings of the wizarding world' :)
One preconceived prejudice we see in the books is in regards to
werewolves. When I read PoA, I did not find Ron to show MORE
prejudice against werewolves than Harry and Hermione. Hermione knew
the negative connotation against werewolves. 'I didn't tell anyone!'
Hermione shrieked. 'I've been covering up for you-' and her dramatic
announcement of 'he's a werewolf!' help support this I believe. Ron
was more vocal in showing his negative preconception towards
werewolves with his 'Get away from me, werewolf!. But he was just as
willing to listen to Lupin's explantation as Harry or Hermione.
During Lupin's explanation, 'Lupin moved closer to Ron. He seemed to
be holding his breath as he gazed intently at Scabbers' (pg. 255 UK
ed.) Ron did not once again yell 'get away from me, werewolf', as he
should of done if he stubbornly held on to his preconceived
prejudices. In fact, by the time that Lupin and Sirius had convinced
the Trio of Sirius' innocence, Ron VOLUNTEERED to be shackled to
Lupin and Pettigrew! That IMO shows that Ron does have prejudices
(hatred of werewolves is a very common prejudice found in the wizard
and Muggle worlds ;) but he is open to shedding that particular
prejudice pretty quickly :)
The other preconceived prejudice that has been recently mentioned is
the enslavement of house-elves. As reprehensible as enslavement is,
Ron is not the only person in the wizarding world who doesn't rise
above it. From every wizard who owns a house-elve to Dumbledore (for
allowing house-elves in Hogwarts) to all the people who not only did
not join S.P.E.W but openly scoffed at it. Harry may not have been
aware of the prejudice surrounding house-elves and yes he did free
Dobby (one among many I might add) but once he too became aware of
the situation (courtesy of Hermione) he did squat to eleviate it (if
you don't agree, I would love to see the canon passage that shows
Harry showing active involvement in freeing house-elves, aside from
Dobby :)) As my fellow Sugar-Quiller Arabella (hi Arabella, loved
your post!) mentioned, by the end of GoF, the house-elve issue had
been pushed to the back burner by even Hermione. So to show up Ron
as 'not rising above' such prejucides once again sells Ron short (you
have to admitt, he is the tallest of the Trio ;) and IMO is not
supported in canon.
The third preconceived prejudice that has been mentioned in
conjunction with Ron is the hatred/fear of giants and the fact that
Hagrid is a half-giant.
Arabella wrote:
<Also, Ron needs very little prompting to surmount his struggle with
his feelings about Hagrid being half-giant ("'Who cares?' Harry
said. 'There's nothing wrong with Hagrid!' 'I know there isn't,
but...blimey, no wonder he keeps it quiet,' said Ron, shaking his
head." And then, "'Well... no one who knows him will care, 'cos
they'll know he's not dangerous." Granted, Ron goes on to say
that "they're just vicious, giants," but as he points out, it's more
in their natures than anything else, just as Hagrid points out that
it wasn't in his own mother's nature to be maternal.)
<From what I've read of Ron, he notices and admits the
prejudices he feels, is able to discuss them, (yes, he even discusses
the house-elves; he may be sticking to the wrong guns, but he's got
guns in that argument - Winky *does* seem extremely miserable having
been freed and though that's the natural struggle of the oppressed,
it is still a difficult struggle for a 14 year old to understand),
and more often than not, he comes to learn and move forward in his
thoughts. After all, what kind of realistic character would Ron be
if he didn't even have these thoughts to begin with, especially
having grown up in the wizarding community?>
As Arabella has shown, yes Ron is aware of the prejudice against
giants as opposed to Harry and Hermione, but even knowing what he
knows regarding the 'vicious nature' of giants he does NOT ever
consider renouncing Hagrid just because he's half-giant. Harry and
Hermione don't know any better. 'He's half-giant, so what?' was their
response. But Ron DOES know better and yet he 'rises above' his
prejudice and never considers Hagrid as anything other than his
friend.
I really don't see canon evidence supporting Ron clinging overly to
preconceived prejudices that Harry and Hermione don't share because
of their Muggle backgrounds. As I have elaborated in this post, Ron
is not IMO too 'ready to judge people based on preconceived notions'.
He definitely knows about giants, but as I and Arabella pointed out
he certainly doesn't hold it against Hagrid that he's a half-giant.
Same goes for house-elves and werewolves. I think that people are
confusing Ron's quick temper with him making quick judgements :)
All this talk about Ron has raised my appreciation of the boy more
<g>. Harry didn't hold it against Ron for starting the 'fight' in GoF
so neither will I. Others have posted that yes Ron started the fight,
but he also made sounds of trying to patch things up before the first
task. JKR herself in the Dec. Times article said that the fight was
prolonged due to Harry's not Ron's stubbornness, and JKR IS the HP
God <vbg>(there was a post a while back about this article so I won't
elaborate further). Ron WAS very mean to Hermione during the Yule
Ball fight, but as other's have said , Hermione gives as good as she
gets and I can excuse his behaviour as due to the green-eyed monster
known as jealousy.
Some people have said that they don't think that Ron will
intentionally betray Harry, but unintentionally he will. I of course
don't think that Ron will EVER betray Harry, intentionally or
otherwise. The only way Ron would intentionally betray Harry or turn
to the Dark Side is if he valued money and power/fame/prestige above
Harry. Despite his insecurites, there is absolutely no canonical
evidence of this happening so far. Ron has had his insecurities since
PS/SS and as many have pointed out, he did not hesitate to follow
Harry in finding Quirrell/Voldie and in fact sacrificed 'himself' to
let Harry and Hermione move forward on the giant chess set. He did
not hesitate going to the Chamber of Secrets to try to save his
sister along with Harry. In PoA, the whole standing on his broken-leg
and 'You'll have to kill us too' speaks for itself. In GoF, neither
Ron nor Hermione had a chance to really stand up with Harry against
Voldie, but both did show their support. Ron after his initial (and
very human) jealousy of Harry leading to the 'fight' came around
pretty quick when he actually saw Harry in danger for his life in the
First Task. When push has come to shove, despite his poverty and
insecurity Ron has shown that he is truly Harry's Wheezy :)
Ron betraying Harry UNintentionally IMO is not a possibility because
I really cannot see any scenario in which this could occur. Most
people don't doubt Ron's intellect (master chess player, seems to
have about the same grades as Harry) so his being 'taken in' doesn't
seem reasonable to me. IIRC, someone said something to the effect
that Ron is quick to leap without looking and THAT might cause him to
unintentionally betray Harry. IMO, Harry is the one who doesn't look
before he leaps. It seems to me that it is Harry who is quickest to
break rules (if he didn't we of course wouldn't be so entertained
<vbg>) and not think before acting (going after Quirrell, going into
the Forbidden Forest after the spiders in PoA...). Harry seems to me
as likely to leap before looking as Ron and in not really think
things through. Ron being the loyal friend that he is of course does
not let Harry leap alone :) But I haven't heard anyone seriously
consider HARRY as being a candidate for unintentional going over to
the Dark side due to his impulsiveness. Besides, I think that JKR has
already played the 'unintentional betrayal by best friend' scenario
with Sirius (he did suggest Pettigrew be the Secret Keeper, and he
does feel responsible for James and Lily's deaths). I don't see her
having history repeat itself in that regard. She is much too
imaginative for that :)
When all is said and done, I just want to point out that HARRY still
considers Ron one of his best friends and he doesn't seem to share
the dislike that many have for his Wheezy. He knows about Ron's
insecurities but I didn't see him saying 'Well mate, it's been nice
knowing you but I don't want to be friends anymore. I am afraid that
your hot temper might unintentionally betray me now that Voldie's
back. I hate you for being jealous of my money and fame and for
acting like a prat towards Hermione at the Yule Ball. You are too
quick to show your prejudices towards house-elves and giants and
don't have the decency to rise above such things. I don't like your
sarcastic humour, nor your red hair or freckles. I resent you for not
believing in me about putting my name in the GoF, even though I have
forgiven you for it. What did I ever see in you that made me think
you were my best friend?'<vbg>
Firoza
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