[HPforGrownups] Re: Ron Week: More Questions

[Aberforth's Goat]

No: HPFGUIDX 16304

Arabella wrote,

> But as for prejudice aside from that against house-elves: we've never
> heard another word from Ron on the subject of werewolves, so I'm
> assuming he managed to get over that one.

Actually, isn't that Ron's hand that has penned in "aren't all bad" next to
the entry "Werewolves" in FB? (To tell the truth, all three hands look the
same to me--but perhaps I didn't look carefully enough.)

Baaaaaa!

Aberforth's Goat (a.k.a. Mike Gray)
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> Wow.  That's a pretty negative painting of a character who gives me a
> lot of joy; let's see what I can say about that.  I'll agree with you
> that Ron has a jealous streak.  Oh yes.  On two levels, really (and I
>  think it's someone from SugarQuill who said this on one of the
> boards; I can't remember whom it was and I apologize for lifting your
> logic).  First, Ron's jealousy is in relationship to Harry's
> limelight.  Secondly, his jealousy is in relationship to other
> people's (not just Harry's, I imagine) material possessions.
>
> On the limelight issue: I'm hoping that his fight with Harry will
> inform Ron's position on this from here on out, and in fact I think
> we can already see him beginning to be a bigger person on this front
> "In tribute to their recently repaired friendship, Ron had kept the
> bitterness in his voice to a bare minimum."  That's a pretty good
> show for a young guy who's feeling edgy about this whole Yule Ball
> business.  I'm also hoping that, in light of what Harry has just been
>  through with Voldemort, Ron will begin to see that the limelight
> isn't necessarily the best of all places to be.  Of course, that's
> just a hope right now, but I have faith in Ron. <g>  My final hope on
>  that score is that Ron will come into a little limelight of his own
> that will give him a sense of self-worth that kills his jealousy of
> Harry.  (Though, as Ebony has beautifully pointed out, Ron already
> has
> a lot of important things that Harry doesn't have, and if he'd wake
> up
> and realize it, he'd be a bit better off, emotionally.)
>
> The material possessions issue is a little different; it cuts very
> deeply into Ron.  He makes comment after comment about his poverty
> and other people's comparative ease.  He's extremely unhappy about
> his
> financial situation.  But I think it shows a strength, rather than a
> weakness, that he is willing to admit this in such a forthright
> manner ("I hate being poor.")  In my opinion, that's a damn hard
> thing
> to say, especially in front of your best friend who has money and the
> girl you've got a crush on (that's IMO).  Ron is at least aware of
> who he is and what his struggles are and what motivates him.  I think
>  that's a huge first step to improving himself and overcoming those
> emotions.
>
> >This seems what Harry values him for.  When they are
> > no longer speaking, Harry misses Ron who can make him laugh, talk
> to
> > him about Quiddich, make Potions and Divination bearable.
>
> Yes.  Absolutely.  And we know how much Harry values laughter because
>  at the end of GoF, he more or less purchases some from the twins,
> for
>  his future.  "I could do with a few laughs.  We could all do with a
> few laughs.  I've got a feeling we're going to need them more than
> usual before long."   I think that Ron's wisecracking element is
> essential to Harry.  Harry loves him for it.
>
> >(I hated Ron during the Yule Ball episode, despite feeling very
> sorry
> > for him)
>
> Yeah, he was a prat there, wasn't he?  Attraction can cause the best
> of us to go off the deep end, though, I imagine - and that's what I
> see as the root cause of Ron's ridiculous behavior.  I don't worry
> too
> much about Hermione, though - she can take care of herself.  She got
> him back nice and quick -  had him mouthing like a goldfish out of
> water by the end of the night. <g>
>
> > Harry and Hermione seem so much more mature
>
> I'll give you that on the level that both Harry and Hermione seem to
> be able to contain their emotional responses more readily than Ron
> can do.  IMO: Harry acts on his core instinct, Hermione on her
> logical
> deductions, and Ron goes more or less right from the gut - emotion
> seems to drive him along and that can be seen as an immature level on
> which to function.  I personally think there's something
> heartbreakingly honest about that kind of emotional impulsiveness,
> but that's just my opinion.  Also, IMO, Hermione and Ron tend to
> function on an identical level from time to time, leaving Harry alone
>  to shoot for the marrow of the issue.  My favorite example of this
> is
>  the passage, "'You just don't like Crouch because of that elf,
> Winky' said Ron, sending a cushion soaring into the window.  'You
> just
> want to think Snape's up to something,' said Hermione, sending her
> cushion zooming neatly into the box.  'I just want to know what Snape
> did with his first chance; if he's on his second one,' said Harry
> grimly..."   And then again, at the end of GoF, Ron and Hermione
> regard Harry almost as if they are afraid of him.  I don't
> necessarily see Hermione as so much more mature than Ron, on either
> of
> these occasions - rather, it is Harry who seems to rise above them
> both.  Of course having seen what he's just seen at the end, that's
>  hardly surprising.
>
> > I am hoping that the events at the end of GoF will hope Ron grow
> > up.
>
> I can't imagine anybody who really loves Harry remaining unaltered at
>  this point.  And since Ron has shown far more friendship than
> fighting toward Harry when all four books are measured, I can't help
> thinking that yes, Ron does love Harry and care about him very much.
>
> ~Arabella
>
>
>
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