Bonfire Night/Godparents (some comments)
meboriqua at aol.com
meboriqua at aol.com
Sat Apr 21 13:44:29 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 17323
> Although the origins of godparenthood are religious, it is often
used simply as a means to honour some close friends or siblings of the
parents and they may then do little more than give the child gifts on
significant dates. The religious aspect is, as Catherine said, that
the godparents are seen as religious or spiritual guides for the
child. At the Christening (baptism), they are expected to step
forward and speak on the child's behalf. I think many people just ask
their chosen godparents and don't go near a church. I was baptised
and I have a very devoutly Christian godmother and two atheists (one
late) as godfathers, none of whom has ever offered me guidance.
However, a medium once told me that I am possessed by my deceased
godfather (who is also my uncle), but I digress.... As to Penny's
question, I think a godparent could be seen a proxy guardian, but
grandparents, aunts and uncles (The Dursleys - gaaaah!!!) would
probably be considered first, and there is no legal bond (unless
specified). To me a godparent seems a bizarre thing to have in a
world based in witchcraft, but on second thoughts, JKR has not so much
embraced Wiccan or Pagan beliefs, as created a word of Magic
intermingled with many comforting Muggle traditions, such as the
rather secular Christmas celebrations. It's my view that JKR is
portraying Sirius as an alternative guardian, not someone the Potters
chose to be a religious guide.>
> Neil>
Hi Neil!
I had to respond to this even though it is quite OT, but I will
connect it to Harry Potter so...
The question of religion in HP is interesting to me, and I know I
(among others) brought it up a while ago, but I stand by my belief
that if the wizarding world were to be assigned a religion, it would
most definitely be a Christian one. Why do I insist on this?
Well, I am Jewish, and in Judaism there is no Christmas and absolutely
no Godparents. Whether either of these things are secular or not (and
I do love Christmas decorations and go a little nuts decorating my
classroom for the holidays), they are still religious based. My
boyfriend is not Jewish and has mentioned having godparents for our
baby (if we ever have one) and that makes me very uncomfortable. In
fact, religious Jews do not celebrate Halloween either. Since I was
not raised in a religious home, I was lucky enough to be able to
participate in Halloween (my very favorite holiday - you should see my
classroom in October), but many Jewish people do not.
My point is, I think people are taking for granted that we live in a
very Christian world, and Harry Potter celebrates Christian holidays
and observes Christian traditions. BTW, this does NOT bother me in
the least, and I ABSOLUTELY am not criticizing ANY religion
whatsoever. I do not want to offend anyone (and would feel very bad
if I did). I just wanted to add my two knuts in here with a slightly
different perspective.
--jenny from ravenclaw, who, if she was a 14 year old witch at
Hogwarts, would still date H
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