Abanes Answers Witch
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Tue Apr 24 22:54:12 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 17605
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Cait Hunter" <kiary91 at h...> wrote
>While Harry *does* lie, he doesn't get away with it nearly
> all the time, and, when pressed about it, tells the truth. He gets
in trouble for telling the truth, which is a very real concept.
ANSWER ------- In my book, HARRY POTTER AND THE BIBLE, I
actually catalogue teh places he lies and does other unethical
things and show when he suffers negatively and when he not
only gets away with things, but is rewarded. Try it yourself, you
will be surprised.
> I have a serious issue with the fact that people tell little children
"You won't get in trouble if you tell the truth." This simply isn't
true- if you broke Mom's favorite vase to be spiteful, you're going
to get into trouble if you tell her about it right off or if you lie and
say the cat knocked it off the shelf and admit it later- the
difference is only in your own integrity and perhaps in the
punishment.
ANSWER -----------The ONLY difference is your integrity? Hmmm,
seems like this should be the important thing. No one -- not me
at least -- is saying that truth telling might not bring some
difficulties, but that doesn't mean don't tell the truth.
> The admirable thing about Harry is, he accepts the
consequences of his words. Whether that's expected by the
bible or not, it *is* an admirable trait.
ANSWER ---As I said, add up the times he has to accept any
consequences. You will be surprised. Also, most of the time,
when he DOES put up with consequences, they are very minor.
> I also don't think it's fair to call the Inquisition a political
> institution, unless you'd like to call the entire medieval church
the same. If the burnings had nothing to do with real religious
beliefs, why on EARTH did they take place? The basis of
Christian belief is the Bible, and the Bible says "Thou Shalt Not
Kill." Reconcile those, please.
ANSWER ---------- Teh inquisition was ABSOLUTELY political
used to silence anyone who would threaten teh political (and
wealthy) Roman Catholic institution. Hence, the Reformation
was needed to call Christians OUT of the corrupted institution of
Catholicism and back to the simple gospel of the Bible. You see
NOTHING like the doctrines or hierarchical structures of
Catholicism in the Bible. The worst thing that VEER happened to
Christianity was the politicalizing of it due to the conversion of
Constantine.
> Neither are you, buster. Astronomers would also count as
star-gazers. (If not, don't tell my friend the Astronomy major-
that's her email!) Hermione's academic sucess has little or no
bearing on the divination issue, which is what I thought we were
talking about.
ANSWER-------- I like the "buster" comment. Anyway, an
astronomer's e-mail name has little to do with the histoprical
use of the word star-gazer.
> This is the bit that got me mad, guy. Here's WitchVox's mission
statement, taken directly from their webpage: "Mission
Statement: The Witches' Voice is a proactive educational network
> dedicated to correcting misinformation about Witches and
Witchcraft. Witchcraft - Wicca IS a legally recognized religion in
the United States and it is our mission to protect that right
through education and awareness. It is our belief that Witches
are givers and healers! By keeping abreast of the latest news
and updated information, as well as having ready access to
critical resource tools, we, as Witches and Pagans, can not only
empower ourselves, but develop programs to educate our local
towns and cities on who we are and what we do."
ANSWER ------------Yes, sounds exactly like the mission
stataement from many Christian sites, except its geared twoard
WICCA rather than Christianity or some other religion. Again, I
say, time for the altar call.
Cordially,
Richard Abnaes
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