[HPforGrownups] Re: Who killed J&L

[Morag Traynor]

No: HPFGUIDX 17726

Steve Vander Ark wrote:


> >
> > Where do you get the idea that Voldemort was destroyed before James
> > and Lily were killed?
>
>Because the echo, as you point out that it's called, of the spell
>that nearly destroyed Voldemort DOESN'T come out of the wand. It
>would have presumably been the next one out if Harry had maintained
>the contact and the Priori Incantatem effect. But no echo, no spell.
>That's the way the thing is described as working. As for the things
>Harry hears, remember that he doesn't actually hear anyone die, just
>the voices and the screaming.

How can you hear someone die?  Can't give chapter and verse, but doesn't 
Voldemort admit he killed the Potters?
>
>You could even make a case for the fact that he didn't hear his
>father at all, but someone else. After all, when he tells Lupin that
>he hears his father, Lupin gives him a peculiar look. He's never
>actually heard his father's voice at that time. Was his father even
>there? What does Lupin know about that incident that makes him
>suprised at Harry's interpretation of what he hears? Was it someone
>else having taken Polyjuice Potion? Was LUPIN there? Whoa!

Agree, it didn't have to be James.  Harry doesn't remark any difference 
between the "wand echo" James and the Dementor-induced memories, but then, 
the voices are distorted in the duel with Voldemart.  Don't think it's 
polyjuice, but something is going on there.

>Again, I am pretty sure that the JKR is NOT pulling some fancy trick
>here, but that she simply didn't think it all out in the kind of
>infinite detail that we are. But it's fun to analyze and imagine. And
>who knows...maybe I'll be proved right!
I think the events of that night are one thing JKR *has* thought out in 
infinite detail - everything we are told raises more questions than answers. 
  For instance, why doesn't Dumbledore comment when Hagrid says he's going 
to take Sirius's bike back?  Either he knows Sirius has already been 
arrested, or he doesn't, but thinks Sirius is the traitor.  Either way, 
you'd think he'd say something.


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