"True" Prediction, incl. Grim

[Amy Z]

No: HPFGUIDX 24085

prefectmarcus wrote:

> > > The second prediction included the words, "The Dark Lord will 
> rise 
> > > again with his servant's aid, greater and more terrible than 
ever 
> > he 
> > > was."
> > > 
> > > That portion had not happened yet.  For that matter, it hasn't 
> > fully 
> > > happened by the end of GoF either.
> > > 
> > > The point?  The point is that he is calling it a "real" 
> prediction, 
> > > even though it hadn't fully come to pass yet.

Maybe he was only referring to the part that had happened.

Jonathan wrote:

> While we're on the subject - is there anyone else who finds 
> Dumbledore's criticising of her abilities odd? She makes several 
> correct predictions in canon - for example, she was predicting 
Sirius 
> for practically all of Book 3.

Great point.  Dumbledore probably doesn't know about that.  Only the 
students do, unless Trelawney's been talking to the other teachers.  
McGonagall knows about her dire predictions about Harry, and shared 
them at least with Lupin, but she doesn't know that what Trelawney 
saw was a Grim.  Even Lupin doesn't seem to have been worried--he 
probably remembers Trelawney predicting death for one of his 
classmates years before . . . 

I think it might be cheating anyway for Trelawney to say that this 
was an accurate prediction.  If the shapes in tea leaves are supposed 
to be symbolic, not literal, then when your godfather is trying to 
save your life, what shows up should be not an actual image of your 
godfather, but whatever symbolizes a protector.

(On the other hand, it's fair to see the Grim just about any time 
with Harry because someone *is* always trying to kill him, including 
that year.)

Amy Z