OotP title meaning

[breegenie]

No: HPFGUIDX 30865

The message board seems to have eaten my actual comments, so let me 
try again:

Elizabeth Dalton wrote:
I assumed when I read GoF and heard the title for the next book that 
"the old crowd" and "the Order of the Phoenix" were the same, and, 
as noted above, a group of wizards who had fought Voldemort with 
Dumbledore in the past.
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Joshua Dyal wrote:  
The Order of the Phoenix could just as easily be some entirely new 
organization that has never existed before now.  And, for that matter 
(although it's unlikely) maybe it doesn't even have anything to do 
with Dumbledore himself.

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Anyone think Order of the Phoenix might refer to Voldemorts 
followers? We associate the Phoenix with Dumbledore, but Voldemort 
DID rise again, and has a phoenix feather for a wand core. So:

1. Could be the new name for the DEs. Sounds a little fancier, 
although Death Eater had a more violent ring to it. (Does anyone know 
who calls them DEs, the wizarding community, or LV himself. He seems 
to call them followers)

2. Could be the name the DEs starting call themselves after LV's 
first fall. Can't exactly go around using DE after they aren't as 
powerful.

3. Could be the special name for the followers that were REALLY true 
to V, a special way for him to recognize them. In GoF he says he will 
reward them. Sort of the Order of Merlin, First Class for Death 
Eaters?

4. A little farfetched -- Could be the name for the MoM group that 
will deny V's return...

HP titles seem to refer to something involving Voldemort that Harry 
will have to confront. If OotP refers to A Dumbledore led group, that 
bucks the trend...although you never know with JKR.

Bree (who hope her post actually shows up!)