OotP title meaning

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No: HPFGUIDX 30859

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "raolin.rm" <raolin1 at h...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Elizabeth Dalton <Elizabeth.Dalton at E...> 
> wrote:
> > Soo... in the Ancient Greek version, they could leave the spells 
in 
> > Latin, I suppose (though it would be chronologically weird), but 
> what 
> > are they going to do with the spells in the Latin version? It 
would 
> be 
> > pretty weird to leave them as is. (And might not be correct 
Latin, 
> > either-- JKR did say that she did the research for their names on 
> her 
> > own.)
> 
> 
> There's not really any language that is to Latin what Latin is to 
> us.  Maybe they could cast them in Proto-Indo-European?  ;)
> 
> 
> 
> > I assumed when I read GoF and heard the title for the next book 
> that 
> > "the old crowd" and "the Order of the Phoenix" were the same, 
and, 
> as 
> > noted above, a group of wizards who had fought Voldemort with 
> > Dumbledore in the past.
> 
> 
> That seems to be common sentiment, but it's still just 
speculation.  
> The Order of the Phoenix could just as easily be some entirely new 
> organization that has never existed before now.  And, for that 
matter 
> (although it's unlikely) maybe it doesn't even have anything to do 
> with Dumbledore himself.
> 
> 
> > I think it's significant that all the members of "the old crowd" 
> that 
> > we know (Dumbledore, Sirius, Lupin) use Voldemort's name, not an 
> > elusive euphimism, the way everyone else does. Does anyone 
remember 
> > McGonnagal ever saying "you-know-who"? Moody also says Voldemort, 
> > though of course it's really Crouch. But I would expect the real 
> Moody 
> > to do the same (assuming he says anything printable about 
Voldemort 
> at 
> > all).
> 
> 
> Yes, that is interesting.  I really noticed that with Sirius and 
> Remus -- and it struck me as very odd at the time.
> 
> Joshua Dyal