Snape/Harry/Sirius Nov 1, 1981

[clio44a]

No: HPFGUIDX 31014

Wow, what a great theory, Heather.
 I like the idea of Snape being kind of a reluctant guardian of 
Harry.It would explain his attitude towards him without needing the 
James-life-depth background, which after all was not considererd 
important by the movie makers.
I think you got close to the core of things, but we are not quite 
there yet. But I have the gut feeling Snape is deeply involved into 
the events in 1981. I just can't put my finger onto it.

Being a fanatic nitpicker and having the events of that night 
pondered over and over again, too, I still have some questions.

1. 
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "heathernmoore" <heathernmoore at y...> wrote:
> Was this one of the Evans family homes, then? Lily being Muggle-
born, its much more unlikely that any of the Death Eaters would have 
known anything about any of her childhood houses prior to Peter's 
revelation. The magic-related destruction of one of the Evans houses 
> would have just driven Petunia over the edge.

It's a nice idea that the Potters were hiding in a summer house of 
the Evans family. It is highly unlikely that the Evans (muggles, as 
far as we know)owned a house in a place named Godric's Hollow. The 
name stringly suggests a connection to the Godric Gryffindor-heir of 
Gryffindor issue.   


2.
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "heathernmoore" <heathernmoore at y...> wrote:
> Hagrid half-sorrowfully, half-bewilderedly does what he was asked 
to do: he retrieves the baby and refuses to give him to Sirius. It 
isn't clear that he has any idea *why* Sirius has to be snubbed like 
this, but Hagrid is loyal to Dumbledore.  Depressed and enraged by 
Peter's betrayal and the deaths of his dear friends, blaming himself 
to a degree, Sirius hands off his motorcycle (what would appear to be 
a typical pre-suicide move) to Hagrid and sets off to settle the 
score with Peter. He probably expects to die in the encounter. 

After delivering the baby to Privet Drive Hagrid says he now will 
return the bike to Sirius.
Why is he oblivious of Sirius blasting Peter Pettigrew and being in 
jail? And if he doesn't know, why doesn't Dumbledore tell him? And 
why didn't Hagrid return the bike earlier, if he really has spend a 
full day in Hogwarts?

3.
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "heathernmoore" <heathernmoore at y...> wrote:
> But before the Muggles can arrive, first Hagrid, and then Sirius, 
both turn up. Hagrid has to have been told by Dumbledore where to go. 
Due to the last-minute nature of the SK Switch, Sirius may well have 
been the one person outside of the charm who knew where the Potters 
were. Hagrid might have Apperated in, but Sirius is of course on his 
flying motorcycle. As we see with the flying Ford in CS, these 
enchanted vehicles aren't bullet-train fast. Sirius must have taken a 
little bit of time in getting there. (How he knew to come? Did Peter 
draw Sirius out, intending to kill him later in the day?)
>  
> 
> The fact that they arrive too late to get the Potters away, but 
before the Muggles arrive, suggests to me that someone in 
Dumbledore's circle (probably D himself) received another, last-
minute warning from Snape, who was able to tell D(?) where (Godric's 
Hollow!) and when (*tonight*). 

Dumbledore sends Hagrid to the destroyed house. If Dumbledore got a 
warning in time, why did he not send a more powerful wizard there.
No offense to Hagrid, but he doesn't legally own a wand. Did 
Dumbledore knew Hagrid would come to late to save the Potters? How? 
wasn't it dangerous to send Hagrid there alone? I mean it was 
possible that a Death Eater or Voldemort himself was still lurking in 
the house.
Its a remarkable slim window in time between the destruction of 
Voldemort and the arrivel of the first muggles or MoM officials in 
the street.How come that Hagrid arrives exactely in that time? And 
how does Sirius know when to go there? He was still thought off as 
the secret-keeper. Surly dumbledore would not
send the secret-keeper to the place he was supposed to keep secret in 
a moment where this secret was in danger. 

4.
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "heathernmoore" <heathernmoore at y...> wrote:
>In the morning, soon after being so evasive with McGonagall and 
being certain she has left, Hagrid comes to get Harry and put him 
down for a nap for an hour or two before setting off on Sirius' 
flying motorcycle for Surrey. 

Hagrid states that baby Harry fell asleep over Bristol when they 
travelled to Little Whinging.
Would he really fly over Bristol if he would go straight from 
Scotland to Surrey? (I'm not that familiar with English topography.)
If baby Harry spent the missing 24 h in Hogwarts, why does not 
Dumbledore take him to Privet Drive himself?



There are a lot of questions about the timing when the Godric's 
Hollow incident is concerned. 
IMHO they literally meddeled with the time. A time-turner!
What if Dumbledore sent Hagrid back into the past to retrieve baby 
Harry, like people have already suggested?

Does it make sense? I'm going to try to explain this a little more. 
Maybe after the (for all 3 Potters lethal) raid Dumbledore found a 
way to keep Harry alive.
So he reached out to Lily in the past and told her how to save her 
baby. Or Maybe he sent someone into the past, a mysterious person x,
who helped to protect Harry in that night. Than of course it was not 
only Lily's love that protected Harry.
With the knowledge of what would happen (because it already had 
happened) it was easy to send Hagrid to Godric's Hollow in the exact 
time to fetch Harry.
The journey with the bike Hagrid and Harry made would then not only 
be a journey through space, but also through time.
THis theory is supported by the strange watch Dumbledore uses when 
waiting in Privet Drive.

Quote PS, Chapter 1:
"Dumbledore gave a great sniff as he took a golden watch from his 
pocket and examined it. It was a very odd watch.
It had twelve hands but no numbers; instead, little planets were 
moving
around the edge. It must have made sense to Dumbledore, though, 
because
he put it back in his pocket and said, "Hagrid's late. I suppose it 
was
he who told you I'd be here, by the way?" "

Maybe this watch doesn't tell the time, but, well different levels of 
time.

I, know time travel seems to be a little far fetched, but we have 
seen wziards travelling in space without effort. Why not travel in 
time?

Clio,
who wanted to say so much more, but cant think of it right now.