SHIP? - protestations, call for HPFGU-SHIP

selah_1977 ebonyink at hotmail.com
Sat Dec 15 18:03:54 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 31642

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., Elizabeth Dalton <Elizabeth.Dalton at E...> 
wrote:
> Um, folks, about this remark:
> 
> > I don't think this is "whining" or "whinging." I'm simply 
expressing my POV:  this is a list with over 3000 members, which 
generates 60-100 posts per day, and to my mind, that's an indication 
that if there was an obvious topic division point, a division would 
be warranted. And it would seem to me that any topic that requires a 
tag on the subject line, that can constitute up to half of the
> posts on the list for an extended period, and that draws repeated 
protests from multiple members is a good candidate for such a 
division. It's been done before, after all. We have separate HPFGU-
Movie and HPFGU-OTChatter lists. Why not a HPFGU-SHIP list? I imagine 
this has been discussed before, but list management is always a 
dynamic topic, as the membership grows and changes.
>


*rolls eyes*  Oh, no.  Not *this* again.

I've been an HP4GUer for eighteen months now.  I must say that I have 
very little sympathy for those list members who have no patience with 
shipping discussions.  Now, I get annoyed at any number of topics 
that are discussed here over and over again, but I don't complain.  I 
simply delete them along with all the junk ads in my e-mailbox and 
move on with my life.  

When you are part of a community as diverse as this one, there is a 
certain amount of give-and-take that goes on.  I can list any number 
of characters and plotlines I don't give a hoot about speculating on--
until last month's movie, Professor Severus Snape was #1 on that 
list, closely followed by Mad-Eye Moody, wand order, and number of 
students at Hogwarts.

There are also many subjects that I used to care about during my 
early months on the list, but am now *all discussed out* on.  I used 
to really love any and all MWPP speculation of any shade, but now I 
must say that it bores me to tears.  I also used to love discussing 
time travel, whether the books were sci-fi or fantasy, and 
spontaneous generation in this magical world.

I even don't feel the burning need to reply to as many SHIP posts.  
Everyone who's been here for a while tends to know who the veteran 
battle-scarred and die-hard shippers are and where we all stand.  But 
I will defend very vocally the right of newbies who are shippers of 
*any* stripe to have the freedom to post what they want.

All I'm asking for is a certain level of reciprocity here.  The 
shippers don't scream and complain about topics that we generally 
don't really care about--so why non-shippers have such a problem with 
it has always mystified me.


> Now, as I was going to post this, I checked the web-view to see if 
there were any last-minute comments to sum up, and saw this ADMIN 
post from Penny:
> 
> > ...as long as I'm the List Owner, shipping posts that use canon  
will *always* be on-topic.
> 
> Unfortunately, this does confirm a private speculation of mine that 
the preferences of the list owner were influencing the handling of 
this topic. In that case, perhaps I should reverse my call and 
suggest the creation of a new HPFGU-NOSHIP list. 

Others who have felt the same have started their own lists.  Good 
luck.

--Ebony AKA AngieJ

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