Next Big Battle (on HPFGU) IS Memory Charms

oz_widgeon Littlered32773 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 19 16:08:29 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 31933


> So many good candidates for a name!  I move that we re-locate the 
> headquarters of the Reverse Memory Charm group from my cubicle to 
the 
> corner booth in the little Chinese food restaurant down the street 
> with greasy carpet but excellent soup.  The four members will debate 
> and then vote on a name, feeling haughty and superior because we may 
> have more members than D.E.P.R.E.C.I.A.T.I.O.N.



All right now, as founder of D.E.P.R.E.C.I.A.T.I.O.N. (since I asked 
for the name), I'm deeply injured by the oppositions clearly size-ist 
attitude.  Just to PROVE that we are indeed a bigger group, I've done 
a search for all the people I think should be in our little group 
(hey, I'm at work and have to LOOK productive-no one can actually SEE 
what I'm doing on my computer, I just look busy and deeply absorbed).  
Here is the list of people who are getting their virtual badges, based 
on their previous posts: Mary Ann, Cheryl, Red Queen, Amanda, 
Catherine, Alexandra, Shanna, Milz and Kelley.  The following people 
have not actually joined our theroy but are under active recruitment: 
Ethanol, Gwendolyn Grace, Tabouli and Suzanne.  Come on guys, you KNOW 
you want one of our cool badges! 
If you look at the list, you can clearly see we are indeed quite a 
group so naaaaaaaaaaa.
 
> Now, to inject some canon into this post, Neville's story doesn't 
end 
> with the explanation of why his memory is poor.  Whether it is some 
> memory charm or something else, JKR still has to develop it in 
future 
> books.  Many of us seem to think that Neville has a lot of talent 
and 
> power that is currently being repressed.  What device could JKR 
> possibly use to bring forth this talent and power?  IIRC, the only 
> way to break through a memory charm is with torture.

I don't recall that memory charms HAVE to broken with torture.  We've 
only heard about LV doing so, and I sincerely doubt he'd do things a 
nicer way if there is one, which I believe there must be.  I can't 
imagine them with a charm that doesn't have a counter 
charm-even if a lot of people don't know about it (except of course 
for the forbidden curses)
> 
> Also, what is the canon evidence that memory charms damage the 
> memory?  The muggle Roberts family is given a host of memory charms. 
> Do they all have impaired memories now?  Can one of the L.O.O.N.s 
>set 
> me straight on the difference between the Roberts family memory 
> charm, Lockhart's memory charm, and Bertha Jorkins memory charm?

My theory is that there must be different strenghts of memory charms 
(doesn't someone in GoF say they give Mr. Roberts 'mild' memory 
charms?).  We see Mr. Roberts clearly confused after so many memory 
charms ("Merry Christmas"), but sadly we don't see enough of him 
afterwards to know the lasting effects.
Somewhere in GoF, Bertha is discussed as not always being forgetful (I 
think by Arthur), just a busybody (I believe)  this is shown somewhere 
else (sorry I don't have my books) as being a sign of a memory charm.
Lockhart's case is different I think because the curse backfired on 
him through Ron's faulty wand.  He seems to have completely forgotten 
everything, including his name and that he even IS a wizard.
Okay, as it is quitting time (tee hee managed to LOOK extremely busy 
for a good half hour!), I'll close this post and go home.  And I say 
to all my fellow or interested D.E.P.R.E.C.I.A.T.I.O.N. members to 
stand up and be counted!  Show your support for Neville and his poor 
memory!  Wear your badge with pride!

Slon-prepared to defend Neville to the end (or until JK proves us all 
wrong)





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