Fidelius Charm/ Who LV wanted to kill

cindysphynx cindysphynx at home.com
Sun Dec 23 20:39:50 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 32122

Heck, I feel like speculating today, so here are a few ideas loosely 
based on canon:

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Hollydaze wrote:

> I have an idea about the Fidelius Charm. 
> 
> It can't make the house invisible because when we are told about 
>Fidelius, we are also told that LV wouldn't be able to find the 
>Potter's "even if he had his nose pressed against their sitting room 
>window". That would imply the house is still there and so friends 
>etc would still be able to see them.
> 
> This leads me to an idea I have about the Fidelius Charm: I don't 
>think it is the actual location of the people who are hiding that is 
>the secret. <snip>  It almost seems like it is the actual souls (or 
>similar) of the people being hidden that is the secret that is 
>placed inside the secret keeper, > 

Hmmm.  You may have a point that the Fidelius Charm can't just mean 
the Potters can sit in the house and Voldemort just won't know they 
are there.  Voldemort must know how the Charm works.  So if he went 
to the Potters' house, pressed his nose against the window and didn't 
see the Potters, he would know to destroy the house anyway, just in 
case the Potters were there.

Maybe the charm works because, in the wizarding world, a wizard's 
location is a part of his magical power, like an aura.  (This is why 
the Weasley's clock knows when Arthur is at work or at home.)  Other 
wizards can track the wizard by it if they know how.  Owls can also 
track wizards by it.  Voldemort alludes to it in GoF when he says he 
has ways of tracking down traitors.  (I think he said this, but I 
can't for the life of me locate the reference).

So the Fidelius Charm is (to borrow a Star Trek concept) like a 
complex cloaking device.  Pettigrew as secretkeeper was carrying the 
Potters' location aura around so that no one could track them down.  
Once he gave it to Voldemort, Voldemort could track the Potters' aura 
as easily as the Weasley's clock tracked Arthur.

I would also imagine that, once the secretkeeper has the secret 
(location aura), it is rather easy to get it out of him.  Sirius 
makes Pettigrew the secretkeeper as a bluff, figuring Voldemort will 
successfully seek out and find Sirius (even though Sirius planned to 
go into hiding).  For Sirius to change the plan like this, there must 
have been some real possibility that Sirius could be found, even in 
hiding.  Maybe this suggests that Sirius also gives off a location 
aura that Voldemort can track.

OK.  If wizards give off location auras, then how can Sirius and 
Peter avoid giving off location auras and successfully stay in 
hiding?  Mmmm, maybe Sirius spends a lot of time in dog form, making 
him more difficult to track, and maybe MoM isn't as good at tracking 
as Voldemort.  No one was looking for Peter because he was presumed 
dead.  

Hollydaze again:

> What if LV does want to kill both Harry and James, but not to stop 
>something from happening (his downfall or similar) but to CAUSE 
>something to happen. Again, I don't know what this might be but 
>likelihood is that it is something to do with immortality. 

Hmmm.  This relates to something Milz posted a few weeks back.  I 
think the gist was that Voldemort gains power by killing other 
wizards and witches and absorbing their power.  Milz said it much 
better than I just did, though.

Anyway, maybe the reason Voldemort wanted to kill James and/or Harry 
is that he can become almighty by killing and absorbing the powers of 
the heirs of the four Hogwarts houses.  So maybe he killed the Gray 
Lady, the heiress to Ravenclaw.  He killed his own father, the heir 
to Slytherin, and perhaps the Bloody Baron.  He killed the Fat Friar, 
the heir to Hufflepuff.  Voldemort seems to be having trouble closing 
the loop and killing the heirs of Gryffindor.  

Dumbledore knows the importance of protecting Harry, who is the only 
thing standing between Voldemort and world domination.  Voldemort 
didn't have to kill James, but he figured it was insurance to make 
sure James didn't foul the plan by going off and having another 
heir.  So if Voldemort succeeds in killing Harry, he becomes more 
powerful than Dumbledore, and Voldemort will own the wizarding world.

I have a feeling this is riddled with holes, so feel free to shoot at 
it.

Cindy





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