Fidelius Charm/ Who LV wanted to kill
kiricat2001
Zarleycat at aol.com
Mon Dec 24 11:53:43 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 32152
--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "Hollydaze" <hollydaze at b...> wrote:
>
> It can't make the house invisible because when we are told about
Fidelius, we are also told that LV wouldn't be able to find the
Potter's "even if he had his nose pressed against their sitting room
window". That would imply the house is still there and so friends etc
would still be able to see them.
> This leads me to an idea I have about the Fidelius Charm: I don't
think it is the actual location of the people who are hiding that is
the secret. This quote above backs up my point as surely if it was
the house and location that were secret then LV wouldn't even be able
to press his nose against their living room window, because he
wouldn't now where it was. What exactly the secret would be I don't
know, I want more information before I try and work that out. The
other thing that leads me to this idea, is the quote about
the "magical concealment of a secret within a living person". It
sounds like an odd way to phrase someone keeping something secret,
something they shouldn't tell anyone. Why not just say that someone
has to keep the location (or whatever) a secret and not tell anyone.
>
> This is probably totally ridiculous but I get the feeling there is
more to this "secret" than just the location of the people that are
hiding, it just doesn't feel right.
I've always had a problem with this, too. There has to be more to it
than just keeping the location of the Potters a secret because both
Sirius and Hagrid knew to go to Godric's Hollow that fateful night.
Okay, Hagrid was sent there by Dumbledore, but that shows that at
least two people who were not the Secret Keeper- Sirius and
Dumbledore - knew to go to Godric's Hollow to check on the Potters.
Sirius tells us that he convinced the Potters to use Peter as Secret
Keeper because no one would suspect him, and that V and his happy
band of Death Eaters would naturally assume that Sirius was the
Secret Keeper and go after him. What this meant to me was that
Sirius was trying to give the Potters additional protection. Sirius
goes into hiding, V concentrates some resources towards finding him,
and when and if Sirius is found, V can torture him to death and he
won't reveal how to find the Potters because he doesn't know. At
that point V can either think that the secret died with Sirius, or he
can assume that maybe someone else was the Secret Keeper and start
looking again. At the very least, it gives the Potters, Dumbledore
and the forces of Light more time to work towards V's defeat.
I think the Fidelius Charm, in this case, is used not just to hide a
precise location. I think there is an element that hides the people
in that location - it's not just "where" they are, it's also "how do
I find them here in this location". V might discover that the
Potters were in Godric's Hollow, but he would not find them once he
got there unless he knew how to break the Charm. And he would only
know that if the Secret Keeper revealed it to him. Otherwise, the
whole idea of switching Secret Keepers doesn't make much sense.
Speaking of sense, did any of the above make sense?
Marianne, with best wishes for a Merry/Happy Christmas for all!
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