Fidelius Charm/ Who LV wanted to kill

rachelrenee1 rachelrenee1 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 24 17:49:20 UTC 2001


No: HPFGUIDX 32169

Hollydaze wrote:

> > It can't make the house invisible because when we are told about 
> Fidelius, we are also told that LV wouldn't be able to find the 
> Potter's "even if he had his nose pressed against their sitting 
room 
> window". That would imply the house is still there and so friends 
etc 
> would still be able to see them.
> 
> > This leads me to an idea I have about the Fidelius Charm: I don't 
> think it is the actual location of the people who are hiding that 
is 
> the secret. This quote above backs up my point as surely if it was 
> the house and location that were secret then LV wouldn't even be 
able 
> to press his nose against their living room window, because he 
> wouldn't now where it was. What exactly the secret would be I don't 
> know, I want more information before I try and work that out. The 
> other thing that leads me to this idea, is the quote about 
> the "magical concealment of a secret within a living person". It 
> sounds like an odd way to phrase someone keeping something secret, 
> something they shouldn't tell anyone. Why not just say that someone 
> has to keep the location (or whatever) a secret and not tell 
anyone. 
> > 
> > This is probably totally ridiculous but I get the feeling there 
is 
> more to this "secret" than just the location of the people that are 
> hiding, it just doesn't feel right.

Then Marianne replied:

> I've always had a problem with this, too.  There has to be more to 
it 
> than just keeping the location of the Potters a secret because both 
> Sirius and Hagrid knew to go to Godric's Hollow that fateful 
night.  
> Okay, Hagrid was sent there by Dumbledore, but that shows that at 
> least two people who were not the Secret Keeper- Sirius and 
> Dumbledore - knew to go to Godric's Hollow to check on the Potters. 
> 
> Sirius tells us that he convinced the Potters to use Peter as 
Secret 
> Keeper because no one would suspect him, and that V and his happy 
> band of Death Eaters would naturally assume that Sirius was the 
> Secret Keeper and go after him.  What this meant to me was that 
> Sirius was trying to give the Potters additional protection.  
Sirius 
> goes into hiding, V concentrates some resources towards finding 
him, 
> and when and if Sirius is found, V can torture him to death and he 
> won't reveal how to find the Potters because he doesn't know.  At 
> that point V can either think that the secret died with Sirius, or 
he 
> can assume that maybe someone else was the Secret Keeper and start 
> looking again.  At the very least, it gives the Potters, Dumbledore 
> and the forces of Light more time to work towards V's defeat.  
> 
> I think the Fidelius Charm, in this case, is used not just to hide 
a 
> precise location.  I think there is an element that hides the 
people 
> in that location - it's not just "where" they are, it's also "how 
do 
> I find them here in this location".  V might discover that the 
> Potters were in Godric's Hollow, but he would not find them once he 
> got there unless he knew how to break the Charm.  And he would only 
> know that if the Secret Keeper revealed it to him.  Otherwise, the 
> whole idea of switching Secret Keepers doesn't make much sense.
> 
> Speaking of sense, did any of the above make sense?

Oh I just love you two.  Mainly because I have had this bee in my 
bonnet about Mrs. Figg being a secret-keeper for Harry while he was 
at the Dursley's house. I loved this idea, because it seems like so 
often JK introduces a magic that fulfills a certian need in a 
particular book and then not much is heard about it again.  But 
wouldn't it be nice to have the Fidelius Charm be important again?   
But then I had to lose this treasured idea of mine.  Mainly because I 
could not justify how the Weasleys and the Accidental Magical 
Reversal squad reached Privet Drive.  Maybe this is the answer and I 
can enjoy my theory once again.  Ohhh what a happy Christmas!!

Rachel
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