JKR's World vs. the Real World (WAS Shadows from Voldemort's wand)

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No: HPFGUIDX 32156

--- In HPforGrownups at y..., "cindysphynx" <cindysphynx at h...> wrote:

First, I still stand by what I said (by the way, I'm srbeers), 
BUT and this is a big BUT, I don't challenge your logic about 
Rowlings world.
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> srbeers wrote:
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> > I read the other responses to this post and there is one flaw
> > in everyone thinking. You are all trying to resolve this
> > problem using the physical mortal world as a frame of 
> > reference. Asking,'How can this happen in the real world?' But
> > this isn't occurring in the mortal world, it is all occuring in
> > the magical, mystical, spiritual, intangable, non-physical world.
> > 
> > In magic, all things are possible.
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> I disagree that we're asking the question "How can 
> this happen in the real world?"  
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What I am saying is that you are trying to use common logic to
explain very uncommon illogical events. It was asked, how these
'echos' could know what was going on when they came out. No 
common logic can explain that, but uncommon logic tells me that
these 'echos' came out with some degree of concious awareness,
some degree of mortal conciousness and pre-awareness or instant 
intuitive awareness of the events unfolding. I know that sounds
like my answer is simply restating the question, but that's the 
magic of it. The same magic and logic that allows Harry to enter the 
physical tangible world of a 50 year old memory.
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> But as Heidi mentioned, JKR has built her world based upon a 
> set of rules and assumptions.  She knows all of these rules; 
> we only know some of them. ...edited... 
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> In fact, I think JKR's world is consistent with many things 
> in the real world. When you might normally expect a situation
> to generate wind, JKR will have Harry report the scene as 
> windy.  ...edited...
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No arguement with these statements. I'm constantly amazed at 
how complex Rowling has the world of Harry Potter worked out.
Did you know she has complete life histories worked out for
most of the characters? 
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> I think it is an overstatement to say "[the books are] all 
> occuring in the magical, mystical, spiritual, intangable, 
> non-physical world."  ...edited...
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I didn't mean to say the the books were all taking place in
a "...magical, mystical, spiritual, intangable, non-physical 
world". I ment to say that this event, was occurring in 
relation to the intangible magic world more than the logical 
physical world. That is, these echos of former lives were
passing from the intangible world into the tangible world
with some degree of the concious awareness of the of the
dead person they represent. They were not just called from
the other world but called with a purpose. It's the purpose
the gives the conciousness and pre-awareness.

There is no common logic to explain how these people came 
out with concious awareness other than magic.
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> It helps pass the time until OoP, anyway.
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Yeh, it is kind of fun.
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> 
> Cindy