In defense of Ginny <again> and such (from a 'newbie')

[shaanhp at yahoo.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 11520

Hello,

I heard about this site from Sugarquill (where I go as Firoza) and 
have been hesitent to tread these H/H waters (and probably after this 
post will go back to lurking, Sugarquill suites me just fine ;-) but 
I have to jump in and agree with the post below. Just adding my small 
voice to G/H and adding my name to the Good Ship R/H (LOL, what a 
concept- ships/shippers, hilarious!). 

Now just to ramble a bit, I have read PoU, ASA, DD and enjoyed the 
stories, but their pairings quite frankly don't ring true to me 
(despite their awesome and talented writers). As for the comment
(don't remember exactly who said it) that H/H is Reality (or 
something to that effect) I would like to just say: is the HP 
world 'Realistic'? I thought it was a fantasy, as in NOT like the 
real world :-) So maybe H/G and R/H might not work in the real world 
(there ARE exceptions, if you read below you'll see mine ;-) but the 
beauty of fantasy IMO is that things that may not happen in 
the 'REAL' world CAN happen here. So to me R/H and H/G are more 
plausible (I believe the concepts were One Big Happy Family and Hero 
Gets the Girl?). If Ron wasn't in the picture and JKR had not given 
huge hints of R/H in GoF, HGTG would fit since this IS a fantasy. BUT 
the presence of Ron AND Ginny makes OBHF make MORE sense fantasy-wise 
IMO than MERELY HGTG, because frankly in general neither OBGF nor 
HGTG really happen in the REAL world, now do they?  

I read all four books before reading ANY fanfics and was 
flabbergasted to say the least that there were H/H ers. To me R/H 
seemed to be where JKR was going and only recently since JKR said 
that Ginny would play more of a role in Book V (although this may 
have NOTHING to do with H/G, my optimism will not be quenched ;-) 
have I begun to really hope that H/G would be a possibilty, plus for 
the reasons posted below :-)

As for H/H making sense in 'subtexts' I confess I really don't 
understand that concept (*looks sheepish*). IMO JKR would NOT spring 
any surprises concerning relationships between the trio. Like someone 
said these books are not a romance. So the fact that she seems to be 
heading towards R/H and H/G (that is MY opinion and what I gathered 
from my readings of the four books)is the way I think she will stay. 
She may throw us a spectacular twist in PLOT but I don't think that 
she would do so when it comes to something as serious and major as 
the romantic relationships of the Trio. IMO GoF shows a marked 
tendency for R/H and she DID say something is going on between Ron 
and Hermione, not just that RON likes Hermione. MY take on this being 
that Hermione has recipricol feelings for Ron, not just 'because Ron 
likes Hermione it follows that Hermione likes Ron'. JKR has already 
thrown out alternate romantic possibilities for our Trio beyond R/H 
or H/H already, but I don't think any of us REALLY want/think that 
Hermione/Viktor, Ron/Fleur, or Harry/Cho are a possibility, now do 
we? So the point that JKR could/will change R/H to H/H and that the 
TRIO are still in there teens therefore are not mature enough to form 
lasting attachments IMO is not likely. Like one R/H er said, JKR has 
made her R/H bed and now has to lie in it, at least IMO, although I 
heartly believe that the road to R/H (and hopefully H/G ;-) will be 
rocky to say the least. 

Also, since this is likely to be my only post, I will just add to my 
ramble a bit more and say that I kind of agree with Ebony's(?) 
generalization that we bring our personal perceptions into our 
interpretation of HP. I have (I believe the terms being used 
were 'Calm' and 'Volatile') more of a Volatile marriage. It seems 
that a day has not gone by in which my husband and I have not 
bickered (we seem to thrive on little spats, but 'little' is the key 
word here ;-) and we have known each other for fifteen years and have 
been married eleven of those years. I will even go so far as to say 
that my husband was my first and only crush and I guess my high 
school sweatheart as well. Amazing what love and committment can 
accomplish ;-). So that is why I identify with R/H (bickering adds 
spice to life) and H/G (first crush/love CAN lead to a permanent 
relationship. My personal experience may happen rarely in the real 
world, BUT it is possible nevertheless :-)

Wow, this has been a very LONG ramble, so I will stop here and just 
say that all the posts in this forum I have read so far are very 
interesting and entertaining. It is fascinating to read about such 
differing view points over the SAME set of books, LOL. My post is not 
meant to 'convert' any H/H people just as none of the H/H posts 
have 'converted' me ;-). My ramble is all in fun so please 
don't 'flame' me should anything I say not tally up with anyone elses 
view of relationships, these are just my personal views/reasons for 
my 'ship' preference :-) Now I will go back to Sugarquill Island 
where my loyalties lie wholeheartedly and continue to silently lurk 
these Hallowed Halls of H/H were there also exists the Good Ship R/H, 
may it float forever :-)



--- In HPforGrownups at y..., moongirlk at y... wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at y..., Ginny Love <Slytherin_Daughter at y...> 
wrote:
> > Oh, and here's my latest
> > rant about my HP alter ego, Ginny:
> > 
> >  Ahem. I whole-heartedly agree that JK Rowling,
> > hallow'd be thy name, would not make our Ginny be a
> > 'plot device' for nothing. 
> 
> Thank you, GinnyLove - a little backup is always nice :D!
> 
> If you'll remember, Tom
> > Riddle said to Harry that not only did he suck the
> > life force out of her, he poured some of himself into
> > her, too-that's how he made her strangle the roosters
> > and paint, etc. 
> 
> Exactly - she's got at the very least some insight into the child 
he 
> once was.  Would be so cool if, in a moment of Evil Voldy weakness, 
> she was able to remind him of some of his youthful vulnerabilities -
 
> remind him that he's human?
> 
> Do we all remember that the reason
> > Harry is a Parslemouth is because Voldemort passed
> > some of his powers on to him via the Avada Kedavra? I
> > don't give a good God damn if Harry saved her, Ginny
> > lived when Voldemort had it in for her-she survived
> > when left for dead. Does it not stand to reason that
> > Tommy passed some of himself into Ginny? 
> 
> I don't know that she got any powers from him the way Harry did, 
but 
> I think she's got a link of some sort that they can use to their 
> advantage against him.  Maybe even just something he shared with 
her 
> to gain her confidence will end up being useful somehow.
> 
> What exactly
> > was the point of CoS, if not to give us the situation
> > for there to be someone who has been through similar
> > things as Harry? What, so we could see Malfoy be a
> > royal prick and buy his way on the Quiddich team? To
> > say 'hi' to Riddle again? To learn the finer points
> > and dangers of journal writing? Come on, folks! Even
> > if she had few lines, the book was about a series of
> > events that altered her life. 
> 
> GinnyLove, I salute you!  In fact, I'm gonna give you my H/G 
sailor's 
> scarf, as a sign of my gratitude for your support!
> 
> Kimberly
> H/G - happy sappy sailors!
> (that's my shorter version)
> 
> > 
> > Ginny Love
> > ---------------------------------------------------
> > "R/H: It Just Makes Sense"
> > "H/G: We're Happy, We're Sappy, We're Ginny/Harry!"
> > (or something like that)
> > ---------------------------------------------------