SHIP: RE: Same Ship, Different Day

[Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer]

No: HPFGUIDX 11594

Hi --

Kathleen Kelly MacMillan wrote:

> As to the Sirius bit, did I miss something?  (I'm not being sarcastic
> here, I'm honestly wondering.)  I don't recall anyone criticizing
> Sirius any more than Ron, in fact the recent thread has mostly been
> comparing the two.

He's been criticized some for the werewolf prank -- that's what I was
thinking of.  And, it's not that I don't think that criticism is without
merit.  He may well have been cruel or reckless or both.  I contend we
don't know what his motivation was.  But, in any case, my basic point is
that I have the perception that everyone thinks it's fine to criticize
most any character, except Ron.  Ron seems to be "off-limits" in the
minds of some people.  I just find that odd -- that's all.

> From GoF, UK ed, p. 277: "Hermione was furious with the pair of them;
> she went from one to the other, trying to force them to talk to each
> other. . ."  To me, this indicates that she didn't give up.  True, she
> clearly spent most of her time with Harry, but I maintain that that
> was because Ron monopolized all of Harry's other friends and she
> wasn't about to abandon Harry.

Good point.  I still don't know *when* she did this going back & forth
business, but you have a point.  <g>

> I don't think anyone has ever said that you weren't entitled to
> your opinions.  I think the message was more intended to be "Keep your
>
> opinions, just don't bash mine."

Isn't the number one R/H Daily Affirmation: "Harry and Hermione is a
RIDICULOUS IMPOSSIBILITY."  Is this *not* bashing my opinion?  It's not
wildly important mind you -- just a question.  It also sounds more like
"Keep your opinions but don't express them." (freedom of speech & all
that but we'll kick you off if you bash a Weasley).

> Penny said:
> > There's definitely a middle-ground, and that's where I
> >fall.  I don't think it qualifies as "Weasley-bashing" to consider
> the
> >theoretical possibility that Ron's jealous insecurity & obvious
> desire
> >for wealth and recognition might make him a very vulnerable target
> for
> >Voldemort & the dark side.  But, anything short of "Ron would *never*
>
> >betray his friend Harry, not under *any* circumstances" seems to be
> >labelled as "Weasley-bashing."
>
> OK, this comment drove me up the wall, because I, the Captain of the
> R/H, have participated in several discussions on this topic and even
> posted a message just a few days ago explaining why I once thought
> this theory a possibility but no longer do.  This is a topic that has
> been discussed at SugarQuill.  So I really think it's an unfair
> statement.

The above quote wasn't addressed just to you, Kathy.  No need to take it
personally!  <g>  You're the Captain & all, but there are lots of other
R/H shipmates who do seem to regard it as slander if one even admits
that there's a possibility that Ron could unwittingly betray Harry
(never mind what they would think about the possibility for an
intentional betrayal).

> (I might also point out that's there's a heck of a lot more canon
> evidence that could be interpreted as Hermione-likes-Ron than there is
> for Harry-likes-Hermione, regardless of how you choose to interpret
> it.)

I disagree.  Surprise, surprise.  :--)  Is there a count going on that I
hadn't heard about?

Penny


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