SHIP/FF: This Ship stuff sounds like shojo/admin hint on prefixes/comment on slash discussions

[Neil Ward]

No: HPFGUIDX 11662

Alex Corvus wrote:

> > I didn't know if I should label this SHIP or FF, or both, or neither ...

Simon Biber replied:

> Most SHIP comes under the FF header, but yes it is both. And I don't think
> it's toooo off-topic. Especially if the extended nautical posts of late
have
> been allowed :-)

I can see why people are confused.  At this stage, SHIP covers relationships
in the canon that are mostly just possibilities, but which may have been
made real in fanon.  Wearing my moderator hat (mine's a car bonnet,
naturally) I suggest that if you're discussing largely relationships between
characters, use SHIP and if you're discussing imaginary plots and scenarios
which divert from the canon (or fanfic specifically) use FF.  Often it will
be both, in which case use FF/SHIP.

Simon also said:

> I'm interested in discussing slash with you. If no-one else is, we could
> perhaps take it off-list? Nah, scratch that... off-list communications
> always dwindle away and there's never the chance for anyone else to join
the
> conversation.
<snipped out Alex's text>
> I am interested in slash as a gay man, so nothing to do with this
> phenomenon. I can see on one level why women might like m/m, because many
> straight men are turned on by f/f action in porn. I don't really see it as
> odd, although my views tend to be pretty liberal and forgiving. Put
another
> way: not much 'squicks' me :-)

There should be no need to take this off-list unless it's OT and goes on
forever.  I think a discussion about the different way Japanese and Western
women view same sex relationships is OT and might be taken off-list (but I'd
also be interested in hearing what Alex has to say about the differences).
Something related more toward the predominance of women among HP slash
writers could be explored here.  It has been touched on before.  Is it just
that women in general are more inclined to write HP fanfic or fanfic in
general, or is there some other reason for the bias?  How many of these
writers are straight women and what *is* the fascination?  Are there many
f/f HP slash fanfics out there?

I've read some HP fanfic, and like or dislike it according how good it is,
rather than what the subject is.  I've never felt a burning desire to seek
out m/m fanfic stories just because I'm gay; I'm primarily interested in the
work of JK Rowling and I admire writers who can extrapolate from her work in
interesting ways.

Neil
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