[HPforGrownups] Re: SHIP: Questions for R/Hers...
morine10 at aol.com
morine10 at aol.com
Tue Feb 13 01:06:20 UTC 2001
No: HPFGUIDX 12127
Ahoy!
Ebony:
> One of the top arguments that R/Hers have used in the past to
> debunk HGTG is that "Harry has everything else, so Ron deserves
> something that he doesn't have... the girl."
>
BBennett:
> I think there's been some misinterpretation as to what HGTG
> means. I know I'm relatively new to HP4GU, but I've never
> thought HGTG was offered to support the idea that Ron deserves
> Hermione, but as a theory to explain why some people think Harry
>
Yes, it was never meant as a reason *why* Ron deserves Hermione (or why
Hermione deserves Ron <g>). I have *never* used the argument that Ron and
Hermione should be together because Harry has *everything* and Ron needs
*something*. That is ridiculous. What I have posted numerous times is this
-- (ship preference aside)
--HGTG is IMO simply pairing the main male protagonist with the main female
protagonist with disregard to the (sometimes subtle) clues left by the author
that point elsewhere. In many children's fantasies and fairy tales the
prince searches for his princess and there is really no question who the
princess will turn out to be. I was a kid when Star Wars came out. We all
thought Luke and Leia were the perfect couple. Really there was nothing to
base it on except HGTG. This leads me into FITD, which from reading your
theories (correct me if I'm wrong) it came about by asking
youngsters/adolescents *who* they thought Hermione liked. Again I'll state
that it's just my opinion, but I feel that they are not able to read JKR's
subtle clues and are automatically paring H with H.
--Now for my finale <g>. B mentioned the POV of the books -3rd person,
limited omniscient. In our case everything we know about all the other
characters is colored by Harry. He's not sitting around psychoanalyzing
everything his friends say. We have to interpret his reactions -- and we all
know how many different interpretations we can come up with. B also pointed
out that if he did have feelings for Hermione we would know. Now I don't
think Harry's all that concerned about his best friends' love life together.
He doesn't give it much thought. The most is after the Yule Brawl <g> when
he thinks "Hermione had gotten the point much better than Ron had." Boom,
he's back to thinking of other more important things like Cho and Quidditch.
If we had Lavender's or Parvati's view we would have more details. What I'm
trying to say is that Harry stinks at giving us the dirt but if you look
closely enough, you can tell where JKR is leading us.
Of course all this is all my opinion but I really tried not to be shippy
about it. <vbg>
> > Also, yesterday in chat I asked the crowd what an extrapolated,
> paired-off future Ron and Hermione would talk about if they weren't
> arguing. I got some silly responses that you'd have to check the
> chat transcripts for, but the top three answers were: 1) Humdrum
> everyday things... what do all couples talk about? 2) His work--
> her work. 3) Talk? They'd be too busy shagging. ;o) (Of course,
> all the H/H and no-shippers in the room ran away
> screaming at that point.)
>
To quote George from Seinfeld ...*Nothing*. ;) Although, LOL, 3 is good
too. <bg>
Ebony:
> As I'm on leave until next Monday, that means you
> guys have one week to get me to jump ship. Who knows? Perhaps I'll
> be traveling on the Good Ship R/H by March... don't look at me like
> that! Stranger things have happened!
>
You're always welcome to stop by! We love visitors. :)
And get cracking on the next part to TIP!
-Mo
(AKA Moey)
"Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?" - Ron Weasley, Harry Potter and
the Goblet of Fire
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